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vivster on 14 March 2017
JEMC said:

AMD Ryzen 7 have a Temperature 20 Degree C Reporting Offset

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7-have-a-temperature-20-degree-c-reporting-offset.html
Alright, in the same blog post as mentioned in the previous item AMD also talks about a Temperature Reporting Offset. This one was new to us, but basically what they claim is the following. To keep a "consistent fan policy," AMD is forcing 20C offset on the Ryzen 1700X and 1800X processors. This makes them report temperature a good 20C above what the sensor reads.
In the short term, users of the AMD Ryzen™ 1700X and 1800X can simply subtract 20°C to determine the true junction temperature of their processor. No arithmetic is required for the Ryzen 7 1700.

>>WTF? So not only do their 8-core chips use less power than Intels, but they're also a whole lot cooler? Very impressive.

Did we read the same report?



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TomaTito on 14 March 2017
vivster said:
JEMC said:

Well, there's only one thing I can say: good luck.

Oh, and have a back up for the really important files.

Don't worry. I have a backup made up of 4 Seagate HDDs. I think I'm safe.

Are Seagates that bad? I don't remember that back in the days.
I bought a 5TB usb HDD (they call it Expansion Desktop) to do some backups at work... should I have gone WD My Book instead?



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vivster on 14 March 2017
TomaTito said:
vivster said:

Don't worry. I have a backup made up of 4 Seagate HDDs. I think I'm safe.

Are Seagates that bad? I don't remember that back in the days.
I bought a 5TB usb HDD (they call it Expansion Desktop) to do some backups at work... should I have gone WD My Book instead?

I don't know about longevity but general quality is higher on WD. Seagate is fine if you don't have any high demands. After all it's an HDD, no matter the manufacturer they could break today or in 20 years.



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Conina on 14 March 2017

Computerbase.de tested Ryzen 7 on Windows 7 + Windows 10: https://www.computerbase.de/2017-03/ryzen-windows-7-benchmark-core-parking/

Games aren't running faster on Windows 7 than on Windows 10.

"Ryzen works faster on Windows 10 than on Windows 7, even if the energy profile has been set to "balanced". The change to Windows 7 brings only in Battlefield 1 and Project Cars clear advantages. In Project Cars, however, the same advantage can also be achieved under Windows 10 by selecting the "maximum performance" profile."



TomaTito on 14 March 2017
vivster said:
TomaTito said:

Are Seagates that bad? I don't remember that back in the days.
I bought a 5TB usb HDD (they call it Expansion Desktop) to do some backups at work... should I have gone WD My Book instead?

I don't know about longevity but general quality is higher on WD. Seagate is fine if you don't have any high demands. After all it's an HDD, no matter the manufacturer they could break today or in 20 years.

I haven't opened it yet, and WD just launched some nice deals on refurbished My Books.
You guys scared me for some reason... That's what got me thinking.

Might just stick with the Seagate and see how it performs, it has a two year data recovery guarantee either way.



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vivster on 14 March 2017
TomaTito said:
vivster said:

I don't know about longevity but general quality is higher on WD. Seagate is fine if you don't have any high demands. After all it's an HDD, no matter the manufacturer they could break today or in 20 years.

I haven't opened it yet, and WD just launched some nice deals on refurbished My Books. That's what got me thinking.

You guys scared me for some reason... Might just stick with the Seagate and see how it performs, it has a two year guarantee either way.

There really is no general problem with Seagates, otherwise they wouldn't be in business anymore. Seagate is just the AMD to WD's Nvidia.



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JEMC on 14 March 2017
vivster said:
JEMC said:

AMD Ryzen 7 have a Temperature 20 Degree C Reporting Offset

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-7-have-a-temperature-20-degree-c-reporting-offset.html
Alright, in the same blog post as mentioned in the previous item AMD also talks about a Temperature Reporting Offset. This one was new to us, but basically what they claim is the following. To keep a "consistent fan policy," AMD is forcing 20C offset on the Ryzen 1700X and 1800X processors. This makes them report temperature a good 20C above what the sensor reads.
In the short term, users of the AMD Ryzen™ 1700X and 1800X can simply subtract 20°C to determine the true junction temperature of their processor. No arithmetic is required for the Ryzen 7 1700.

>>WTF? So not only do their 8-core chips use less power than Intels, but they're also a whole lot cooler? Very impressive.

Did we read the same report?

Well, I read the article where they say that the 1700X and 1800X CPUs report, on purpose, a temperature 20º higher than they really are. Given that most reviews claim that those CPUs hover around 70º at load, that's means they're really 50º, which is a great result for those 8-core chips.

TomaTito said:
vivster said:

Don't worry. I have a backup made up of 4 Seagate HDDs. I think I'm safe.

Are Seagates that bad? I don't remember that back in the days.
I bought a 5TB usb HDD (they call it Expansion Desktop) to do some backups at work... should I have gone WD My Book instead?

I decided to skip Seagate altogether after seeing bars like these:

2013-2014: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/blog-drive-failure-by-manufacturer1.jpg

2014-2015-2016: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/drive-stats-2016-q1-failure-by-mfg.jpg



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Conina on 14 March 2017

Full Throttle Remastered in 5 weeks!

https://www.gog.com/game/full_throttle_remastered



JEMC on 14 March 2017
Conina said:
Full Throttle Remastered in 5 weeks!

https://www.gog.com/game/full_throttle_remastered

Another game that will increase my never ending backlog...



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JEMC on 14 March 2017

Let's do the news:

 

1-Mods

 

2-Gaming News

VETERAN WORLD OF WARCRAFT AND LOL DEVELOPERS ANNOUNCE REND, FIRST SCREENSHOTS & DETAILS
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/veteran-world-of-warcraft-and-lol-developers-announce-rend-first-screenshots-details/
Frostkeep Studios, an independent games studio formed by veteran World of Warcraft and League of Legends developers, announced today its first new game, Rend; a hybrid fantasy survival game that introduces RPG elements and other game mechanics to the genre.

 

HALO WARS 2 – FREE DEMO AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD ON WINDOWS STORE
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/halo-wars-2-free-demo-available-for-download-on-windows-store/
Microsoft has just released a free demo for its new strategy game, Halo Wars 2. This demo is 17GB in size and features the opening mission of the single-player campaign, as well as the Blitz Firefight mode.

>>Whaaaat? A 17GB demo! Are we insane?

 

DESPITE ITS CROWD-FUNDING PROMISES, 2DARK WON’T BE AVAILABLE ON DRM-FREE DIGITAL STORES
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/despite-its-crowd-funding-promises-2dark-wont-be-available-on-drm-free-digital-stores/
Back in 2014, Gloomywood launched a crowd-funding campaign for its stealth adventure game, 2Dark. Gloomywood promised to release this game on DRM-free digital stores (such as GOG and Desura). However, and after signing up a publishing deal with Bigben Interactive, these plans have been abandoned.

 

MASS EFFECT: ANDROMEDA – OFFICIAL MULTIPLAYER TRAILER
http://www.dsogaming.com/videotrailer-news/mass-effect-andromeda-official-multiplayer-trailer/
Electronic Arts has released a new multiplayer trailer for Mass Effect: Andromeda. In the game’s MP mode, players will join forces with up to 4 players, battle through hordes of enemies, and win using high-tech armaments and deep customization. Mass Effect: Andromeda releases on March 21st.

>>But wait, because that's not the only ME related news of today...



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