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hinch said:
Marth said:

Whats the ETA on Nvidias RTX4000 series?
I hope soon so can finally afford a 3060ti

Probably just past mid September. Since the previous launches where around that time; the 2080/3080. It will be RTX 4080/4090 launch in Sept.. followed by the 7X series. Then the 6X series after that (2023) and then Super/Ti releases and a 5X if we're lucky.

I wouldn't count on mid range cards to release this year though since Nvidia always release the 8 and 7 series first. And so prices for the 3060Ti may or may not drop substantially when they release.. it may be worth picking up if you need a GPU now (if you can get a good deal) and resell later.

Even if the mid and low end cards come later, the mere launch of new GPUs will have an effect, making the current cards less valuable and, with luck, bringing their prices down.



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Intel confirms desktop Arc will be China exclusive at launch

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-desktop-arc-will-be-china-exclusive-at-launch

I have never seen such a disaster of a GPU launch in a very long time.


AMD Radeon RX 6950XT 6750XT 6650XT Review Roundup

https://videocardz.com/129000/amd-radeon-rx-6950xt-6750xt-6650xt-review-roundup

6650XT costs the same as a 3060 Ti. But since AMD hasn't given out their founders edition cards to review, the AIB card costs $500.

1440p Raster:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6650-xt-gaming-x/31.html

6750XT costs $50 more than a 3070. The AIB card costs $630.

1440P Raster:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio/31.html

6950 costs $100 more than 6900XT but AIB version costs $1300.

1440p Raster:

4k Raster:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-radeon-rx-6950-xt-gaming-oc/31.html

And all this is before Ray Tracing

AMD FidelityFX Super Resolution 2.0 to launch on May 12 with Deathloop, 10 more games planned

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-fidelityfx-super-resolution-2-0-to-launch-on-may-12-with-deathloop-10-more-games-planned

Intel Unveils Habana Gaudi2 & Greco 7nm Deep Learning Accelerators: Gaudi2 With 24 TPCs, 96 HBM2e, 600W TDP Offering Faster Training Performance Than NVIDIA Ampere A100

https://wccftech.com/intel-7nm-habana-gaudi2-greco-deep-learning-accelerators-2x-nvidia-a100-gpu/

Ah yes, beating the A100... When the H100 is on the horizon

Intel Launches 12th Gen Alder Lake-HX CPUs: The Fastest Laptop Chips Yet With Up To 16 Cores, 5 GHz, 16 PCIe Gen 5 Lanes, Full-Range Overclocking

https://wccftech.com/intel-launches-12th-gen-alder-lake-hx-cpus-the-fastest-laptop-chips-yet-with-up-to-16-cores-5-ghz-16-pcie-gen-5-lanes-full-range-overclocking/

Well the leaks from the other day about Turbo going up to 157 watts was legit

AMD Ryzen 6000 series receive DisplayPort 2.0 Ultra-High Bit Rate (UHBR) certification

https://videocardz.com/press-release/amd-ryzen-6000-series-receive-displayport-2-0-ultra-high-bit-rate-uhbr-certification



                  

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JEMC said:
hinch said:

Probably just past mid September. Since the previous launches where around that time; the 2080/3080. It will be RTX 4080/4090 launch in Sept.. followed by the 7X series. Then the 6X series after that (2023) and then Super/Ti releases and a 5X if we're lucky.

I wouldn't count on mid range cards to release this year though since Nvidia always release the 8 and 7 series first. And so prices for the 3060Ti may or may not drop substantially when they release.. it may be worth picking up if you need a GPU now (if you can get a good deal) and resell later.

Even if the mid and low end cards come later, the mere launch of new GPUs will have an effect, making the current cards less valuable and, with luck, bringing their prices down.

We shall see. True cards are still dropping in price. I just see much point in waiting that long if you can get a good deal now. By the time you're in September/October looking for a new card you might as well wait another few months for the 4060; which will trash the last gen mid cards. Heck even current gen high end if you go by value :P Assuming you can get a hold of one.

Like if i have a look at etailers now (in the UK) for a RTX 2060 its still at MSRP and more lol (a nearly 2.5 year old card). The 3060 on average around 25% higher than MSRP.. I don't think 3060 prices are going lower than MSRP tbh even when the latest Nvidia/AMD cards are out. Maybe you can find a good deal from people flogging their stuff on Ebay perhaps..

Another option is look out for the RTX 3070 Founders Edition, which sometimes comes back into stock from time to time.

Last edited by hinch - on 10 May 2022

Captain_Yuri said:

Intel confirms desktop Arc will be China exclusive at launch

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-desktop-arc-will-be-china-exclusive-at-launch

I have never seen such a disaster of a GPU launch in a very long time.


AMD Radeon RX 6950XT 6750XT 6650XT Review Roundup

6650XT costs the same as a 3060 Ti. But since AMD hasn't given out their founders edition cards to review, the AIB card costs $500.

6750XT costs $50 more than a 3070. The AIB card costs $630.

And all this is before Ray Tracing

Yeah Intel Arc was doa before even hitting the market. Under delivering, and worse doesn't even work properly. We probably expected too much from a project spearheaded by Raja Kaduri lol.

For the refresh its pretty lame release. More expensive for few percent max performance gains so late this generation its such a pointless release. And pretty much sums up how messed up the PC market has been the last couple of years. For cards that barely keeps pace with Nvidia counterparts (particularly at higher res) is missing features and has gimped RT performance AMD should've done much better here.



Captain_Yuri said:

6750XT costs $50 more than a 3070. The AIB card costs $630.

1440P Raster:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio/31.html

6700 XT = 479 € UVP (MSRP) in 2020

RTX 3070 = 499 € UVP (MSRP) in 2020

RTX 3070 = 549 € UVP (MSRP) since 2021

6750 XT = 619 € UVP (MSRP) in 2022, custom models even more

And the RTX 3070 is even more efficient, which is nice with exploding electricity prices.

Last edited by Conina - on 10 May 2022

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hinch said:
Captain_Yuri said:

Intel confirms desktop Arc will be China exclusive at launch

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-desktop-arc-will-be-china-exclusive-at-launch

I have never seen such a disaster of a GPU launch in a very long time.


AMD Radeon RX 6950XT 6750XT 6650XT Review Roundup

6650XT costs the same as a 3060 Ti. But since AMD hasn't given out their founders edition cards to review, the AIB card costs $500.

6750XT costs $50 more than a 3070. The AIB card costs $630.

And all this is before Ray Tracing

Yeah Intel Arc was doa before even hitting the market. Under delivering, and worse doesn't even work properly. We probably expected too much from a project spearheaded by Raja Kaduri lol.

For the refresh its pretty lame release. More expensive for few percent max performance gains so late this generation its such a pointless release. And pretty much sums up how messed up the PC market has been the last couple of years. For cards that barely keeps pace with Nvidia counterparts (particularly at higher res) is missing features and has gimped RT performance AMD should've done much better here.

The funny part is that Raja got promoted to being the VP of Intel. I need to learn how to be a snake oil salesmen as well so I can become a VP of a multi-billion dollar company.

Yea it's funny how Radeon went from being the good guys to being worse than Nvidia right as they had a competitive product.

Nvidia GPU Refreshes:
More Cuda Cores
More RT Cores
More Tensor Cores
Higher Memory Bandwidth
Sometimes, more Vram
Higher TDP
Higher Price


AMD GPU Refreshes:
Same Streaming Processors
Same Ray Accelerators
Slightly higher frequency
Higher Memory Bandwidth
Same Vram
Higher TDP
Higher Price

Conina said:
Captain_Yuri said:

6750XT costs $50 more than a 3070. The AIB card costs $630.

1440P Raster:

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-radeon-rx-6750-xt-gaming-x-trio/31.html

6700 XT = 479 € UVP (MSRP) in 2020

RTX 3070 = 499 € UVP (MSRP) in 2020

RTX 3070 = 549 € UVP (MSRP) since 2021

6750 XT = 619 € UVP (MSRP) in 2022, custom models even more

And the RTX 3070 is even more efficient, which is nice with exploding electricity prices.

Lol I didn't even look at the efficiency charts. That is genuinely sad for Radeon.



                  

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Captain_Yuri said:

Intel confirms desktop Arc will be China exclusive at launch

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-confirms-desktop-arc-will-be-china-exclusive-at-launch

I have never seen such a disaster of a GPU launch in a very long time.

I don't think Intel could have done a worse launch of thei GPUs even if they tried. It's surprising and extremely disappointing.

Captain_Yuri said:

AMD Radeon RX 6950XT 6750XT 6650XT Review Roundup

https://videocardz.com/129000/amd-radeon-rx-6950xt-6750xt-6650xt-review-roundup

The new refresh cards look quite competitive compared with the older cards they replace, showing almost a 10% improvement in average (it's also worth noticing that the tested cards are factory overclocked, unlike the original, reference models).

Sadly, the price hike, specially compared to Nvidia's, leave them in no man's land.

hinch said:
JEMC said:

Even if the mid and low end cards come later, the mere launch of new GPUs will have an effect, making the current cards less valuable and, with luck, bringing their prices down.

We shall see. True cards are still dropping in price. I just see much point in waiting that long if you can get a good deal now. By the time you're in September/October looking for a new card you might as well wait another few months for the 4060; which will trash the last gen mid cards. Heck even current gen high end if you go by value :P Assuming you can get a hold of one.

Like if i have a look at etailers now (in the UK) for a RTX 2060 its still at MSRP and more lol (a nearly 2.5 year old card). The 3060 on average around 25% higher than MSRP.. I don't think 3060 prices are going lower than MSRP tbh even when the latest Nvidia/AMD cards are out. Maybe you can find a good deal from people flogging their stuff on Ebay perhaps..

Another option is look out for the RTX 3070 Founders Edition, which sometimes comes back into stock from time to time.

We all have the mentality of newer = better, specially in the PC world when that's usually true. That means that the RTX 3000 abd RX 6000 cards will lose appeal once the new cards launch, even for segments that haven't recieved the refresh yet. Of course, that it with good availability.

Another thing to wonder is the price of the new cards. With all that's happened and it's still happening, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the new cards come with a higher price, which would make the old ones still attractive for some users. Thankfully, we'll know that before launch, so it will give us a bit of time to decide to wait or jump for a current card.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.

Getting 4000/7000 series GPUs will be interesting this gen.

My personal game plan to get a 4080/4090 is this:

1) Get up at 6AM PT. That is when restocks go live. Doesn't happen everyday but generally 6AM to 10AM PT is when stores like newegg/bestbuy restock. Sometimes they restock throughout the day as well but majority of the stores do it in the morning.
2) Get into a bot discord server and enable alerts. Mute every other Discord notification and make sure it's set to high volume. Also continuously browse bapcsales/bapcsalescanada subreddit.
3) Add the GPUs you want to newegg's wishlist in the newegg app on the phone and setup PayPal or Apple Pay on your phone. Buying from newegg will give you a higher chance of getting a GPU in NA than anywhere else. Keep the wishlist page on the newegg open on your phone at all times. The moment you hear the notification on Discord, refresh Newegg app, hit add all to cart, pay using paypal or apple pay if you have an iphone.
4) Get into as many waitlists as possible. In Canada, Evga, Memory Express and Canada Computers all had queue lists. It took quite a few months but I did receive various notifications.


Getting a GPU these days isn't about thinking, it's about reaction time. Even if you have say 10 GPUs on your newegg wishlist and you add 5 of them to cart, do not delete the ones you don't want cause it will be too late. Check out all 5 of them and complete the payment process. After you have completed the payment, you can go back and cancel the ones that you don't need.

If you think this is too much of a hassle, get Ampere while you still can and enjoy worry free gaming. I'll also be selling my 3080 Strix once I get a 4080/4090 if anyone wants it. I won't scalp you obviously but be aware that I did use it for mining but I did under-volt it so it shouldn't be a big deal. Otherwise I'll sell it on craigslist/ebay.

Last edited by Jizz_Beard_thePirate - on 10 May 2022

                  

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So they release a video card exclusive to one of the only country which banned their citizen to play videogames ? Nice move.



My plan to get a GPU is to prey. Or at least it would be if I were a religious person.



Please excuse my bad English.

Currently gaming on a PC with an i5-4670k@stock (for now), 16Gb RAM 1600 MHz and a GTX 1070

Steam / Live / NNID : jonxiquet    Add me if you want, but I'm a single player gamer.