Similar thread here.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=163079

PS4 today, PC in 2015 and further, simply because any pc u can buy today will be garbage in few years, there is none, literally none, today's PC, that will have good perfomance in upcoming UHD(3840x2160) standart.
You can brag that it's more powerful and etc., but that gives nothing in reality, without optimization every tech is worthless piece of shit, that is today's pc's, u pay more, but u will get less.
So, if you won't get more then 1080p anyway, you don't get graphical advantage, why the hell so many shouting about pc these days? There is no actual point in choosing pc over console today.

Titan or dual GPUs can certainly play 4k. On PCs, you are going to get higher framerates (many games will still be 30fps on consoles) and more detail even at 1080p.

Mods are one advantage that PC definitely has, it also has more indie games

I am personally buying both, but I do feel that a console is a more sensible buy

This, PCs gonna be the cheapest platform to play on in the long run

How are the three builds I posted not more powerful?

CPU

PS4 has a low-power AMD Jaguar CPU.

8-cores @ 1.6GHz with NO L3 cache and 2MB L2 cache PER 4-cores (4MB total).

The AMD I listed above is a normal-power AMD Vishera CPU.

8-cores @ 3.5GHz with 8MB of L3 cache and 2MB L2 cache PER 2-cores (8MB total).

I don't see how you can argue the lower end Jaguar at less than 1/2 the clock and FAR less cache is going to outperform the Vishera CPU.

The two intel i5s are only quad-core, but they routinely outperform AMDs 8-core, especially in gaming.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/698?vs=702 (comparison of the Vishera CPU I listed and the higher end i5)

I think I've shown definitively my CPU choices are better than PS4s.

GPU (all 256-bit)

PS4 has an AMD GPGPU @800MHz - 1152 cores - 1.84TF.
Xbone has an AMD GPGPU @800MHz - 768 cores - 1.23TF.

The Sapphire HD7850 I picked is @920MHz - 1024 cores - 1.88TF.

I'd say these are very comparable cards and better than both consoles.

RAM

PS4 has 8GB of GDDR5 at 176GB/s that is on the MOBO.
Xbone has 8GB of DDR3 at 68.3GB/s that is on the MOBO. (+32MB eSRAM @ 102GB/s on GPU)

My configurations have: (corrected g.skill RAM link)
8GB of DDR3 at 21.3GB/s (on MOBO)
PLUS
2GB of GDDR5 at 176GB/s (on GPU)

While my ram is slower than both in the main 8GB of ram, it includes 2GB on GPU itself that matches the highest rate. I think in the long run my 10GB total ram beats/matches Xbone and is comparable to PS4 to not really matter.

Conclusion

I was right all along. (Though I was definitely not far exceeding PS4... probably more on par with it than exceeding)

You are right that the config is more powerful but that config won't run games like PS4... you will need a even more powerful config.

- The CPU is fine.
- RAM I think you will need more RAM for the GPU... SystemRAM is fine.
- GPU you will need any over 2.5GLOPS

I know there is the obvious OS/PC tax that I'm not accounting for. But the raw specs are better. That is all I was aiming for.

I could of course put one together than when you take into account the PC tax on power it would soundly beat both consoles, but that would likely double my prices.

In reality I don't care as I game on Nintendo. lol

I'm pretty sure you can drop 8 core AMD and go with quad, Athlon X4 740 or FX 41xx for example.

As for GPU, I don't think 7850 will cut it, PS4's GPU is from the start better than that (plus usual Windows overhead), and, as devs start using it's compute enchancements more and more, it will start moving closer to 7870.

I'd rather go with quad and 7870 for about the same price.

It has always been that way, in the PSX, PS2 and current gen as well. If you want to save money - get a PC. Consoles have always been a luxury, they give you extra comfort and you have to pay for it.

Who cares about raw specs apart from nerds who are j*rking off thinking about it? The graphics on this PC won't come close to what you'll see on a PS4/XO and that is what really matters. It's just too close, a PC has to be much more powerful than a console to run similar graphics.

I haven't got a PC. If I wanted to buy one - I'd have to buy every single thing.