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trixiemafia86 on 27 June 2013

Read the whole thread for teh lolz.... I think the XB1 just shows why MS is a software company first. Atleast the XB1 should have a better OS.



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greenmedic88 on 27 June 2013
CGI-Quality said:
ethomaz said:

CGI-Quality said:

I must agree here, especially when I just did a test like this. I ran my most intensive game (no need to talk about my specs) and, at most, I used 3.46GB of my total RAM, and up to the 2GB of VRAM on the card.

You will start to see games for PC using more RAM now... the low-end videoscards will have 2GB minimum... the high-end 4/6/8GB.

I wonder when that might be. Could see 4-6GB games by year's end, to be honest.

Easier for developers when that becomes the minimal spec. If you're thinking in terms of the PC box you're using today, regardless of specs, you're probably not forward thinking.

Somehow I doubt there will ever be a point where a developer says "no more RAM can be used from this point on! that's enough forever!"



iron_megalith on 27 June 2013

I don't get it. Skimming 3 random pages of the thread and I read a couple of posts and says it's twisting facts in favor of XB1. I read the first post of the thread and it just clarifies why having a GDDR5 on XB1 won't benefit the console at all.

I must be very unlucky....



disolitude on 27 June 2013
PDF said:
So if I understand its like this:

Sony has a 32 oz cup of Espresso and MS as a 24 oz cup. Everyone keeps saying look at how much more coffee Sony has. Your point is if MS has the same amount of coffee as Sony if would be pointless as it would makes the Espresso taste bad and be to hot. You have to balance the coffee with cream. So MS cup isn't at a disadvantage because of less coffee per say but because it has less cream and coffee.

So technically everyone should say look at how much more cream and Coffee Sony has. In reality this wont happen because we are not all baristas. We see more Espresso and say look more coffee.

Probably the best analysis of my OP. Well done...



Scoobes on 27 June 2013
disolitude said:
Scoobes said:
Seriously dude, just give up. You're obviously wrong and this thread is going in circles.

Your OP is simply a case of confirmation bias.


I am not sure what you think my OP is stating.  I'm just saying that Xbox One would not be much more powerful with GDDR5 RAM due to specific APU design and lower GPU power compared to PS4.

I am not sure why everyone thinks I'm saying DDR3 > GDDR5 or X1 > PS4... I'm clearly not saying that.

I really wasn't expecting such a shitstorm, just wanted to end the posts saying..."If Xbox One used GDDR5 RAM it would be much more powerful". It really wouldn't. 2133 MHz DDR3 + sRAM is plenty for the 33% lower spec'd GPU in the X1.

If XBone used GDDR5 RAM it would improve overall performance. ethomaz has already shown that lower speced cards have gained significant advantages in using GDDR5 to DDR3 and if memory serves, tech sites were already complaining about the bus width throttling the 7770's overall performance.

MS would have improved performance with GDDR5 and the 256-bit bus rather than 32mb eSRAM+DDR3, not to mention the ease for developers.




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Option- on 27 June 2013
disolitude said:
PDF said:
So if I understand its like this:

Sony has a 32 oz cup of Espresso and MS as a 24 oz cup. Everyone keeps saying look at how much more coffee Sony has. Your point is if MS has the same amount of coffee as Sony if would be pointless as it would makes the Espresso taste bad and be to hot. You have to balance the coffee with cream. So MS cup isn't at a disadvantage because of less coffee per say but because it has less cream and coffee.

So technically everyone should say look at how much more cream and Coffee Sony has. In reality this wont happen because we are not all baristas. We see more Espresso and say look more coffee.

Probably the best analysis of my OP. Well done...

Again...
I´m not into this topic but in the end... PS4 beats One concerning the games, right?

Because finally, as a simple consumer, i don´t give a shit if the One is well-balanced as long as the GAMES look good. I´m rather looking forward to Naugthy Dog´s and SM´s exklusives in 5 years from now as the PS4 will be able to do nearly the same regarding the multi-media stuff.





Teriol on 27 June 2013
sales2099 said:

DDR5 is the new CELL

same shit, different gen

yep back then in 2006: ps3 has the CELL!!!

present time: Ps4 have DDR5!!!...

lol



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sales2099 on 27 June 2013
Teriol said:
sales2099 said:

DDR5 is the new CELL

same shit, different gen

yep back then in 2006: ps3 has the CELL!!!

present time: Ps4 have DDR5!!!...

lol

finally your the first one to see my comment as you typed it lol



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Teriol on 27 June 2013
sales2099 said:
Teriol said:
sales2099 said:

DDR5 is the new CELL

same shit, different gen

yep back then in 2006: ps3 has the CELL!!!

present time: Ps4 have DDR5!!!...

lol

finally your the first one to see my comment as you typed it lol

DDR5 is the gimmick this time lol



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Madword on 27 June 2013

Yeah lets be honest GDDR5 is no gimmick... its been around for a while, and new 6GB graphics cards are coming out. Now the Cloud... don't think i need to say any more.

Don't get me wrong though the Cell was an absolute mess, coupled with the expensive BR disk nearly killed the PS3. Glad they are going back to a simpler way of design.



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