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bananaking21 on 24 June 2013
Torillian said:
Skeeuk said:
So 20 exclusives in 1st year compared to 15 for.....

20 > 15


To be fair MS's exclusives were more exclusive (Xone and maybe PC) where as these are all "Playstation Exclusives" which can mean veious things like Hohokum coming to Vita or Doki Doki coming to Vita, PS3, and PS4.  


you got it wrong. MS stated that microsoft studios will publish 15 exclusives in their first year. sony stated that worldwide studios will publish 20 exclusives on the ps4 in its first year. they are both on PS4 and xbox one. if, lets say, titanfall isnt published by MS and published by EA, then it isnt counted by one of those 15 exclusives. if all those indies sony showed at the confrence are self published then they wont be counted on from the 20 games of sony.

ryse for example will be published by MS, so it will be counted from the 15 since it is published by microsoft studios. as well as that sunset game (forgot the name). currently, sony has the upper hand in number of exlusives that are going to be published. 



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Jaywood2010 on 24 June 2013
kitler53 said:


Also Hokohum, The Witness, and Doki Doki was already announced so that means 4 more if all these are released in the first year.  Expect a few at TGS and a few at gamescon.


"I’m sure you heard from [SCE Worldwide Studios boss] Shu [Yoshida] that he has—just his studios—he has 30 games in development. 20 of them are going to ship within the first year of the console’s life, and of those, 12 are new IP.

knack was "remote play" as is every ps4 title not utilizing the ps eye.

Assuming that Sony has any part with these titles publishing then yes they are. I will not argue this.  Same goes to titles like TitanFall, not published by MSFT.  And Im sure you also have heard that MSFT is likely working on 26 titles and Nintendo is likely to be working on just as many.  Games takes years to make so dont expect a barage of games from first parties to all come out at once for any of the big three other than nintendo.  They will be spread out over time.

to answer your Knack question I only watched the Knack video once and never paid attention that he said remote play.




       

zumnupy10 on 24 June 2013
JayWood2010 said:
Order: 1886 PS4
Killzone: Shadow Fall PS4
Drive Club PS4
InFamous: Last Son PS4
Knack PS4/PSV
The Dark Sorcerer PS4
Transistor PS4/PC
Don't Starve PS4/PC
Secret Panchos PS4/PC
Young Horses PS4/PC
Mercenary Kings PS4/PC
Ray's Dead PS4/PC
Outlast PS4/PC


Also Hokohum, The Witness, and Doki Doki was already announced so that means 4 more if all these are released in the first year.  Expect a few at TGS and a few at gamescon.

A lot of the games in this list aren't being made by SCE developers. So they are not among the 20 playstation excusives mentioned by Yoshida-San.



kitler53 on 24 June 2013
Torillian said:
kitler53 said:
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"I’m sure you heard from [SCE Worldwide Studios boss] Shu [Yoshida] that he has—just his studios—he has 30 games in development. 20 of them are going to ship within the first year of the console’s life, and of those, 12 are new IP.

knack was "remote play" as is every ps4 title not utilizing the ps eye.


To be fair though if SCE works with these games directly at all helping them get off the ground they could be counted.  Just depends how much actual involvement in the development SCE Santa Monica has in these games.  I'd be more inclined to agree with Jaywood that these are being counted over them not being counted.  However I don't think there's a chance in hell whatever Quantic Dream showed will be released within a year of the PS4 release.    

..or they are indie games.   ..some of which already have PC release.  ..with no credits to any sony studio.    just no.



Jaywood2010 on 24 June 2013
kitler53 said:
Torillian said:


To be fair though if SCE works with these games directly at all helping them get off the ground they could be counted.  Just depends how much actual involvement in the development SCE Santa Monica has in these games.  I'd be more inclined to agree with Jaywood that these are being counted over them not being counted.  However I don't think there's a chance in hell whatever Quantic Dream showed will be released within a year of the PS4 release.    

..or they are indie games.   ..some of which already have PC release.  ..with no credits to any sony studio.    just no.


These type of games get published all the time on XBL and PS Store regardless if they were on PC or not..




       

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S.T.A.G.E. on 24 June 2013
bananaking21 said:
Torillian said:
Skeeuk said:
So 20 exclusives in 1st year compared to 15 for.....

20 > 15


To be fair MS's exclusives were more exclusive (Xone and maybe PC) where as these are all "Playstation Exclusives" which can mean veious things like Hohokum coming to Vita or Doki Doki coming to Vita, PS3, and PS4.  


you got it wrong. MS stated that microsoft studios will publish 15 exclusives in their first year. sony stated that worldwide studios will publish 20 exclusives on the ps4 in its first year. they are both on PS4 and xbox one. if, lets say, titanfall isnt published by MS and published by EA, then it isnt counted by one of those 15 exclusives. if all those indies sony showed at the confrence are self published then they wont be counted on from the 20 games of sony.

ryse for example will be published by MS, so it will be counted from the 15 since it is published by microsoft studios. as well as that sunset game (forgot the name). currently, sony has the upper hand in number of exlusives that are going to be published. 


 I believe MS said they were going to have fifteen exclusives at E3 not 15 published exclusives. Secondly, in all our time with MS do you actually believe Microsoft when they say the word "exclusive?" The chances are 2/3 of those titles are third party exclusives or PC/console exclusives. 



sub-zero-TM on 24 June 2013
platformmaster918 said:
sub-zero-TM said:
Old IP's that are missing from the list:

1. Uncharted
2. God of War
3. Ratchet and Clank
4. LBP

These four exclusive franchises will definitely return on the Ps4!!!

Let's just hope the Ratchet is more ACiT than A4O


Yes let's hope! And if there is no Ratchet and Clank for Ps4 i'm not buying it! Playstation is not the same without Ratchet and Clank. ;)



kitler53 on 24 June 2013
JayWood2010 said:
kitler53 said:
Torillian said:


To be fair though if SCE works with these games directly at all helping them get off the ground they could be counted.  Just depends how much actual involvement in the development SCE Santa Monica has in these games.  I'd be more inclined to agree with Jaywood that these are being counted over them not being counted.  However I don't think there's a chance in hell whatever Quantic Dream showed will be released within a year of the PS4 release.    

..or they are indie games.   ..some of which already have PC release.  ..with no credits to any sony studio.    just no.


These type of games get published all the time on XBL and PS Store regardless if they were on PC or not..

A) published is not the same as developed.  B) indie's are self publishing on ps4,..  perhaps you've heard of that policy change.

these aren't at all associated with sony's first party any more than dead rising or titanfall are for xbone.



Torillian on 24 June 2013
kitler53 said:
Torillian said:
kitler53 said:
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"I’m sure you heard from [SCE Worldwide Studios boss] Shu [Yoshida] that he has—just his studios—he has 30 games in development. 20 of them are going to ship within the first year of the console’s life, and of those, 12 are new IP.

knack was "remote play" as is every ps4 title not utilizing the ps eye.


To be fair though if SCE works with these games directly at all helping them get off the ground they could be counted.  Just depends how much actual involvement in the development SCE Santa Monica has in these games.  I'd be more inclined to agree with Jaywood that these are being counted over them not being counted.  However I don't think there's a chance in hell whatever Quantic Dream showed will be released within a year of the PS4 release.    

..or they are indie games.   ..some of which already have PC release.  ..with no credits to any sony studio.    just no.

while the PC release doesn't have any credit to sony studios the ports to PS4 most certainly could.  But I did forget about the self publishing thing so now I'm not certain about whether or not those games will be counted.  Are they all confirmed to be self published?



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Jaywood2010 on 24 June 2013
kitler53 said:
JayWood2010 said:
kitler53 said:

..or they are indie games.   ..some of which already have PC release.  ..with no credits to any sony studio.    just no.


These type of games get published all the time on XBL and PS Store regardless if they were on PC or not..

A) published is not the same as developed.  B) indie's are self publishing on ps4,..  perhaps you've heard of that policy change.

these aren't at all associated with sony's first party any more than dead rising or titanfall are for xbone.

Actually Dead Rising 3 is published by Microsoft.  Listen, I don't want to argue about this thing.  Who knows what they have in store for everybody.  I gave out a list on "possible" exclusives and nothing more. Does not make it right but it is also more iformation than what most people are giving right or wrong. No reason to get upset about that.