curl-6 said:
danasider said:
dahuman said:
ninjablade said:
danasider said: Funny how a little while ago graphics didn't matter and "it should be about the gameplay" but now threads and posts likes these pop up touting the WiiU as next gen. I personally think the difference between PS360 and WiiU are similar to the difference between GC/WiiU. The performance and gloss in addition to raw power makes things like resolution and scale pop, but the actual leap isn't that great in terms of what the naked eye can see. Not like how when you see a PS4/XB1 game you know it will have to be severely downgraded on all levels to work on the prior systems. So these 3 games probably could be ported to PS360 with downgraded performance/resolution, but the difference would probably negligible...especially compared to the differences between PS4/XB1 cross-gen games. Why? Because in terms of leap magnitude, WiiU is only a hop while PS4/XB1 is a high jump. So why brag about these graphics at this time just because Nintendo finally caught up and surpassed PS360 when they are going to be trounced by PS4/XB1. If you want to call WiiU next gen, compare it to PS4/XB1. But if want to concede to the notion that WiiU isn't truly next gen, keep on comparing it to PS360 graphics. Ultimately, the idea that they are more comparable to PS360 than the upcoming consoles might speak loudest about the capabilities of the WiiU and its place in terms of tech prowess... |
I think wiiu owners don't understand why we need more powerful hardware, for one thing, the bad AA on most games with impressive grahics, the frame rate on most third party games with impressive garphics, 720p needs to go and open world game having jaggies, bad frame rate and pop in, so far i haven't seen wiiu remedy any of these things.
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Excuse me? My PC is already more powerful than the PS4 and Xbox One lol. I could easily say the samething about you being only a console owner since I obviously have better hardware than things that haven't even come out yet. :P What a shitty argument coming from a non-PC gamer lol.
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I get that PC is better than consoles in regards to graphics. I can't argue anything there. But PC doesn't even really compete with consoles. It doesn't affect console sales and it is typically held back by consoles since the majority of sales for these AAA titles are on consoles. PCs aren't restricted to the same generations as consoles, because they are upgradeable and the next big thing comes every 6 months (or whatever it is) rather than 5-10 years!
Comparing PC to consoles is like comparing apples to oranges. Comparing console graphics to console graphics (which this thread is about because it doesn't even mention PC) is like comparing a granny smith to a macintosh (the fruit not the tech company). Or 2 different sports teams in the same sport (versus comparing the Heat to the Yankees). The former are in the same playing field. They directly compete with each other.
If WiiU is going to be compared to PS360 over PS4/XB1 that can imply that the WiiU is in the same field as PS350, because if WiiU had games that boasted graphics on par or anywhere close to PS4/XB1, we'd see a compelling thread on that. So even if this thread is trying to prove that WiiU graphics blow PS360 out of the water and is therefore a true nextgen CONSOLE, then why not skip these comparisons and put the best WiiU has next to PS4/XB1?
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Because generations aren't defined by graphical boundaries anymore. That idea's been obsolete for nearly a decade now.
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Ok, so maybe with consoles the generations are now more clearly defined by release window. So maybe WiiU is considered nextgen by some regardless of which console it graphically competes with. But if that's the case, and WiiU is truly nextgen doesn't that make it worse that is is producing barely better graphics than 7/8 year old consoles? If posters in this thread are trying to make a point that these 3 games are beyond the scope of PS360 and using marginally better graphics screenshots as proof, doesn't that weaken the point that WiiU will be competitive in graphics with regards to other nextgen CONSOLES(caps for people who bring in the PC argument when PC tech is not released in the cycles that consoles are and don't direclty compete with consoles in the market but coexist)?
Its like bragging that XenoBlade Chronicles looks way better than Final Fantasy XII. Sure its got greater scale, prettier vistas and sharper graphics, but it pales in comparison to something like FFXIII, Ni No Kuni or Skyrim (on a technical level as I'm sure Xenoblade can hold its own in terms of artistic merit). And if we're going by the sentiment that generations are defined by release windows instead of graphics, in the present day I'll want the game that looks best (if the gameplay is comparable). I'm pretty sure that's why a lot of 3rd party devs are skipping the WiiU altogether. Sure Nintendo will always be around because their first party offers franchises that can't be replicated on other consoles, but I just think that these three games won't amount to much as a case for graphical prowess when compared to similar offerings on consoles released within WiiU's release timeframe. And even if WiiU is nextgen by some new standard, it LOOKS lastgen in comparison to what will be available in the coming months, because its so comparable to PS360 rather than PS4/XB1. Just look at the posts on this thread for evidence!
So what's the point of asking whether these games can be done on PS360? Are they supposed to be impressive? If I'm going to switch from my current generation of consoles, the ultimate motivation will be what the next box can do that mine doesn't and WiiU just doesn't offer much variation despite its improved tech compared to a PS4 or XB1 (the former which is only $50 more).