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Darc Requiem said:

You don't game on PC. Digital games don't require DRM. Contrary to what is being portrayed on this forum and many others, Steam is not the only source for digital content on PC. GoG sells DRM free games for example.

Yeah, that's true. It's why I buy from GOG when I can... no DRM and no annoying client.



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bigd615 said:

I agree some "concerns" are probably because it is Microsoft, however there are legitimate concerns besides that. You say there wasn't an uproar when PS did this with 5 games. Well they actually did it with 5 games an It didn't work! They quickly cut it down to 2. That is the very reason that many people don't think it's 10 complete games. If publishers wouldn't allow 5 free copies, then why the heck would they allow 10?!

And I don't believe the only 1 copy at a time thing would deter most people. Maybe those that just play COD or only 1 or 2 games, but most people, here at least, have dozens of games that they play. I'm sure they would go without playing a specific game for a little while to not have to spend as much money.

Finally, your last paragraph, I completely agree. However, I'm personally curious as to what exactly it was and how they expected it to work. I don't believe it is a feasible business plan and would have liked to see what actually happened with it.

It didn't work on the PS as there was nothing there to restrict usage. Friends needed your account information to download the games onto their PS and all 5 people could play any portion of the game without any sort of restrictions. That is why it didn't work. Now would the MS version work better since there were restrictions placed on it. Who knows? Maybe, maybe not.

A lot of people have a lot of different games they play at one time. It doesn't mean they wouldn't prefer to play online game along with their friends. MS has a lot of data through Xbox LIVE. I doubt that they just threw this plan together willy nilly. They used that data to attempt to formulate something that would work. Like I said, we do not know how well it would have worked. I would have been interested in seeing it.

It may not have been feasible, then again it could have worked out great. Unless they actually proceed with it sometime in the future, I guess we will not know.



That's a lie. Sorry but if you believe anything Microsoft says at this point, you're way too loyal.



VGKing said:
That's a lie. Sorry but if you believe anything Microsoft says at this point, you're way too loyal.

Depends on what it is. If they say, "On second thought, we're going to implement this after all for all digitally sold games, and it will be unlimited and it will be there at launch," then sure, I'd believe them.

If they can just pretend they were going to do this incredibly awesome thing but everyone fucked it up by caring too much about ownership rights, and now they don't have to deliver on it, but it was all going to be super sweet, they promise, and maybe that will teach you to stand up for yourselves... no.



Jeez guys read the questions.  They asked just "family sharing" not the family/library sharing feature. The first isn't specific to anything. Microsoft is obviously referring to this:

Share access to your games with everyone inside your home: Your friends and family, your guests and acquaintances get unlimited access to all of your games.  Anyone can play your games on your console--regardless of whether you are logged in or their relationship to you.



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Most of the articles created on the internet bashing anything from Microsoft is mostly started by sony fanboys/haters. They will take any chance they get just to bash microsoft. They create fake articles with fake bs info bashing the xbox one. I know all this very well so i dont believe what i read on the internet. It's all just talk and talk, i will enjoy my xbox one regardless of what these haters say or do.



Apparently the boogey monster is real



Talal said:
I will permaban myself if the game releases in 2014.

in reference to KH3 release date

It’s really sad we, as gamers, lost so many cool new features. The way people are attacking Microsoft reminds me of how fundamentalist attack science. They just want to out yell and out scream to 'prove' they are right.

Never bothering with facts, ideas, or that they don't have to sacrifice their ideas, but may need to adjust them a bit.



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

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badgenome said:

Meanwhile, Thurrott is a fucking shill and not some kind of authoritative source on anything. If you read the post where he drops this amazing information, he completely misreads what Microsoft even said. "Look, fellers! UNLIMITED! They said it's unlimited, that makes it not demos!" But he is conflating what MS said other people can do on YOUR console ("unlimited access") with what they said about other people sharing your games (which was merely "access"). Timed trials would be technically be access, so he isn't debunking anything.

I'm on the MS hate train, that's true enough. But I'm not trolling or poking fun for once. This shit is alarmingly bad. So much so that, if the industry as a whole adopted it (which it eventually would have if MS had won here), I would be done with it. It would be retro gaming from here on out for me. I'm not going to give one thin dime to people who treat me like a criminal and a moron, and I'm pretty disappointed at how many people are okay with this because of sheer brand loyalty.


The current xbox digital licensing differentiates the console a game is registered on, so that any account can play those games on that system. ie "unlimited" To play those licenses on a different xbox requires the registered account to sign in to xbox live; a silver account is sufficient. The family accounts would likely have the same limitation and would need to be signed in to xbox live to play the games. The roaming account is expanded to ten roaming accounts. I don't see what's so hard to understand? How is it too good to be true, Sony delivers quality games seemingly for free on PS+ and nobody seems incredulous about it.

I don't find your source authoritative at all; name me a hotshot insider who even leaked the xbox one name? A stopped clock is right twice a day and most of these leaks would be obvious to anyone with half a brain and a keyboard. Xbox family sharing would have been an awesome feature and reading between the lines looking for weasel words to get mad at is just going to send you to an early grave. Because even in the unlikely event that the plain language of the announcement, along with the reassurances of Microsoft insiders were wrong, and a pastebin and a stopped clock were right, we would be NO WORSE OFF than we are now when it comes to digital games.



Stinky said:

Because even in the unlikely event that the plain language of the announcement, along with the reassurances of Microsoft insiders were wrong, and a pastebin and a stopped clock were right, we would be NO WORSE OFF than we are now when it comes to digital games.

But way worse off than we are right now when it comes to retail games.

And in the unlikely event that the feature would have worked as Microsoft wanted you to think it would have, third parties would have killed it anyway

I seriously can't believe you compared select games being part of the PS+ subscription with being able to play all your friends' games for free in their entirety.