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Max King of the Wild on 18 June 2013
kitler53 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
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I don't have cable either. Last time I did was 17 years ago when the place my mom rented had the cable hooked up when we moved in and she didn't pay for it. She then realized a couple years later the cable company fucked up and she called to tell them it was connected...

I honestly don't know everywhere it's offered but I know it is in Illinois from the commercials as well. I assume its anywhere comcast offers their service

i mean this in the must non-disrespectful way i can possibly say this,.. how dumb was that?!?

i mean, i know that is still pretty disrespectful but i don't know how to sugar coat it any more.  why the heck would you call that in?

 

also, i know xbone works only with select cable services at launch.  with Xfinity having a very similar service is there any chance comcast just blocks the xbone?  i mean, is it limited because MS has to work out a deal with every cable provider or just limited because it takes MS time to incorporate whatever middleware is needed for every cable provider?

do we have a list of day-1 supported cable services?


She blamed it on morals and relating it to the same as stealing. I made the case that you weren't the one who hooked it up and it isnt your responsibility to make sure its disconnected.

Good questions. No clue. Comcast is a pretty dominate player too... so if that's the case it would definatly hurt the xbox1 penetrating the market where comcast is offered (basically only option in Chicago land area)



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kitler53 on 18 June 2013
Max King of the Wild said:
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She blamed it on morals and relating it to the same as stealing. I made the case that you weren't the one who hooked it up and it isnt your responsibility to make sure its disconnected.

Good questions. No clue. Comcast is a pretty dominate player too... so if that's the case it would definatly hurt the xbox1 penetrating the market where comcast is offered (basically only option in Chicago land area)

i wanted to know where Xfinity (needed for this service) was avaible and i found this:

Introduction

Find out where XFINITY TV is available.

 

XFINITY TV is available in these areas:

  • Atlanta
  • Augusta
  • Baltimore
  • Baltimore/Salisbury – Shore Side
  • Boston
  • Central California (South Valley)
  • Central Pennsylvania (Capital Area & CPA – Lebanon, Reading, Hamburg; Pottsville – York/Adams County, Scranton Dunmore, Lancaster, Elizabethtown, York/Hanover, Lykens, State College, Williamsport, Mill Hall, Phillipsburg, Huntington, Mount Union, Lewistown, Lockhaven)
  • Central Valley
  • Chattanooga
  • Chicago
  • Colorado Springs
  • Denver
  • Florence
  • Hartford
  • Huntsville
  • Independence
  • Indianapolis
  • Jacksonville
  • Jersey City/Meadowlands
  • Little Rock
  • Miami
  • Nashville
  • Richmond
  • Panama City (including Dothan)
  • Philadelphia
  • Portland
  • Sacramento
  • Salt Lake City
  • San Francisco Bay Area
  • Seattle
  • South Valley
  • Southern New Jersey (Avalon/Wildwood & Vineland/Pleasantville)
  • Tallahassee
  • Three Rivers West
  • Twin Cities
  • Washington, D.C.

If you live in an area where our upgrade is still in process, you’ll receive XFINITY automatically once it is complete.



richardhutnik on 18 June 2013
Max King of the Wild said:

No, not Microsoft's X1 but Comcast's.

And wouldn't you know it? Control your TV through voice commands... I guess MS' groundbreaking TV features aren't so groundbreaking... and why would I need another device to do the same things. So, if you were a Sony fan and jealous about the voice commands to change the TV on the X1... it's okay... you can still get the X1 and do the same thing without buying the X1

http://wwwb.comcast.com/x1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3qKR9eicI&feature=player_embedded

Sports apps, facebook, pandora and more

By the way... shouldn't MS have done some research and have noticed X1 was being used with voice commands already?

Ok, so you need to find another shorthand way of saying the XBOX ONE.  May I suggest XBONE?



superchunk on 18 June 2013

Yep. Saw this awhile back and as a Comcast customer I'm kinda excited to see this roll out.

Its the features I liked in MS presentation without $500 box. That price is why Xbone will not meet its goals.

The consumer who wants these features wouldn't largely buy a $100 to $200 AppleTV/GoogleTV yet they are going to spend $500 on a game console? Nope.

Then you have the core gamer who'll just spend $400 on a PS4 that also lacks the DRM.

MS has no market.



Adinnieken on 18 June 2013
Max King of the Wild said:

No, not Microsoft's X1 but Comcast's.

And wouldn't you know it? Control your TV through voice commands... I guess MS' groundbreaking TV features aren't so groundbreaking... and why would I need another device to do the same things. So, if you were a Sony fan and jealous about the voice commands to change the TV on the X1... it's okay... you can still get the X1 and do the same thing without buying the X1

http://wwwb.comcast.com/x1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3qKR9eicI&feature=player_embedded

Sports apps, facebook, pandora and more

By the way... shouldn't MS have done some research and have noticed X1 was being used with voice commands already?

It doesn't actually use voice commands through the X1.  It uses voice commands through a smartphone app.

So, using your smartphone with the X1 app, you say the commands and the X1 responds.  Not exactly the same as what the Xbox One with Kinect is doing.



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Adinnieken on 18 June 2013
kitler53 said:
Max King of the Wild said:
..

I don't have cable either. Last time I did was 17 years ago when the place my mom rented had the cable hooked up when we moved in and she didn't pay for it. She then realized a couple years later the cable company fucked up and she called to tell them it was connected...

I honestly don't know everywhere it's offered but I know it is in Illinois from the commercials as well. I assume its anywhere comcast offers their service

i mean this in the must non-disrespectful way i can possibly say this,.. how dumb was that?!?

i mean, i know that is still pretty disrespectful but i don't know how to sugar coat it any more.  why the heck would you call that in?

 

also, i know xbone works only with select cable services at launch.  with Xfinity having a very similar service is there any chance comcast just blocks the xbone?  i mean, is it limited because MS has to work out a deal with every cable provider or just limited because it takes MS time to incorporate whatever middleware is needed for every cable provider?

do we have a list of day-1 supported cable services?

 

edit: i also meant to put this in my first post.  lololol at X1 having such a similar name to xbox one.

It's access to the programming list.  Microsoft has to subscribe to the service that provides those listings for each and every cable/satellite provider.

The rest is HDMI pass through.  HDMI supports the remote operation of a device via a single connection, which is how the Xbox One will be able to control the cable/satellite box.  It's making sure that every possible box works across all cable, telco, and satellite providers.  The OneGuide is an app that insets the video from the input into a window, while you access it, then switches to full screen once the selection has been made.

For any non-HDMI devices, there is the IR Blaster.



kitler53 on 18 June 2013
Adinnieken said:
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It's access to the programming list.  Microsoft has to subscribe to the service that provides those listings for each and every cable/satellite provider.

The rest is HDMI pass through.  HDMI supports the remote operation of a device via a single connection, which is how the Xbox One will be able to control the cable/satellite box.  It's making sure that every possible box works across all cable, telco, and satellite providers.  The OneGuide is an app that insets the video from the input into a window, while you access it, then switches to full screen once the selection has been made.

For any non-HDMI devices, there is the IR Blaster.


so to reask my question...  does that mean if comcast says "fuck off" comcast won't work on xbone?

...cause without that is seems to me live tv could be viewed via xbone but you couldn't change the channel.  no?



superchunk on 18 June 2013
kitler53 said:


so to reask my question...  does that mean if comcast says "fuck off" comcast won't work on xbone?

...cause without that is seems to me live tv could be viewed via xbone but you couldn't change the channel.  no?

Not exactly. Did you see the port on the back of Xbone that was IR Blaster? There will be a small device you can plug into Xbone and put it in front of your cable/sat box. Xbone will essentially work like a universal remote in that case.



kitler53 on 18 June 2013
superchunk said:
kitler53 said:


so to reask my question...  does that mean if comcast says "fuck off" comcast won't work on xbone?

...cause without that is seems to me live tv could be viewed via xbone but you couldn't change the channel.  no?

Not exactly. Did you see the port on the back of Xbone that was IR Blaster? There will be a small device you can plug into Xbone and put it in front of your cable/sat box. Xbone will essentially work like a universal remote in that case.


i'll be honest.  i read the words IR Blaster and roughtly speaking this is what went through my head...



thranx on 18 June 2013
kitler53 said:
Adinnieken said:
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It's access to the programming list.  Microsoft has to subscribe to the service that provides those listings for each and every cable/satellite provider.

The rest is HDMI pass through.  HDMI supports the remote operation of a device via a single connection, which is how the Xbox One will be able to control the cable/satellite box.  It's making sure that every possible box works across all cable, telco, and satellite providers.  The OneGuide is an app that insets the video from the input into a window, while you access it, then switches to full screen once the selection has been made.

For any non-HDMI devices, there is the IR Blaster.


so to reask my question...  does that mean if comcast says "fuck off" comcast won't work on xbone?

...cause without that is seems to me live tv could be viewed via xbone but you couldn't change the channel.  no?


No. It also has an IR out put it can use to mimick anything the comcast remote can do. so it can accomplish the same thing still with or with out comcasts help.