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Forums - Gaming - EA hasn't learned from their mistakes

I've made this thread because of a specific mistake that I've just realised they're repeating, but I figured it's worth keeping it open to all of EA's repeated mistakes, because I know there are many.

Which mistake are they repeating? Well, look at this news post from 2008:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/85279-Riccitiello-Admits-EA-Missed-The-Wii-Bus

Riccitiello admits that they made a mistake by focusing everything on PS3 and 360, resulting in a lack of market for their games on the Wii - a major opportunity lost.

Now, this year, EA have decided to focus everything on the PS4 and XBO until the Wii U "sells more boxes" (their words, not mine). So basically, rather than establishing their market on the system, they're going to wait until the Wii U has an established market who love them some Nintendo first-party titles, and then complain when they have trouble selling games to people on the system.

What's that saying about the definition of insanity?



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The "Wii U needs to sell more boxes" is just a smokescreen to hide their poor relationship with nintendo. The cancellation of Crysis 3 and the comments attacking the wii u proves this



RolStoppable said:
EA is always betting against Nintendo, but that doesn't mean that it's always a mistake.

The mistake I'm referring to is the "we won't support the system until it sells well" mistake - because it fails to establish the market. They did it with the 3DS, too. And the DS. And even EA says "never count Nintendo out"... so yes, it's always a mistake.



Did you grew up in a cave ? Of course they don't learn from their mistake.

I'm a fifa 96 player, i knew them for a while now.

They never change



The mistake is that Nintendo fans constantly care (Nintendo as a company seems to have moved on) . I mean why bother making posts about it when the their position is not going to change anytime soon. If its their mistake, the market will adjust accordingly and it will catch up with them eventually but that hasn't happened.



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and don't forget that it's ridiculous tu use wii u's install base as an excuse since they're investing on systems with 0 base



RolStoppable said:
EA is always betting against Nintendo, but that doesn't mean that it's always a mistake.


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I think it's a safe bet that EA is going to screw themselves once again. I'm going to be blunt here- the ps4 / xbone offer nothing radically new or interesting & are both overpriced (yes, even the ps4 will be too expensive for most people at $400, the economy still sucks btw). You can't just keep peddling the same crap to people, using the same tired gameplay, appealing to the same demographics, with the same controller we've been using for over 10 years & expect a system to sell well. Look at the Vita, remember how people thought 'wow, that's a really powerful system & the price seems reasonable', well that didn't turn out too well, did it? This is exactly what will happen to the ps4, same exact thing. The xbone will bomb horribly too. And EA will hopefully go out of business, fingers crossed.



maxnyc said:

I think it's a safe bet that EA is going to screw themselves once again. I'm going to be blunt here- the ps4 / xbone offer nothing radically new or interesting & are both overpriced (yes, even the ps4 will be too expensive for most people at $400, the economy still sucks btw). You can't just keep peddling the same crap to people, using the same tired gameplay, appealing to the same demographics, with the same controller we've been using for over 10 years & expect a system to sell well. Look at the Vita, remember how people thought 'wow, that's a really powerful system & the price seems reasonable', well that didn't turn out too well, did it? This is exactly what will happen to the ps4, same exact thing. The xbone will bomb horribly too. And EA will hopefully go out of business, fingers crossed.

Can you please lay out a instance where EA has had any consequence by not supporting Nintendo consoles?  Usually companies/individuals that are prone to mistakes will suffer consequences and with EA shunning nintendo for as long as they have, I'm sure that consequences should be evident by now.

I'll just go ahead and label you the next Michael Patcher as pretty much everything you layed out, the opposite will happen.  How is EA going to go out of business when they are getting stronger, especially with Star Wars under their belt?  Their FIFA franchasie is as popular as ever, Battlefield 4 looks to surpass COD as the king of FPS this cycle.  Their games, despite their yearly cycle still sell and sell well.  They have desirable properties that as a third party help flesh out any console library.

The PS3 is at 77 million and that started at $600 but you say $400 is too expensive and the PS4 will make the same mistake as the Vita...ok

Is this where peoples train of thought really is?



Train wreck said:
Can you please lay out a instance where EA has had any consequence by not supporting Nintendo consoles?

Just look at how frequently they've posted losses over the last 7 years. Their stock price, since the Wii launched, has dropped by more than 50% - a large portion of which happened around the time that EA was forced to admit that they missed the boat on the Wii. Their revenue has been pretty much constantly increasing, yet they keep posting losses - all while companies were bemoaning the inflating costs of HD development.

In the rare cases that EA actually put real effort into a Nintendo-platform title (and released it at a reasonable time - no pointing to NFS on WiiU, since it was released 4 months late, in the middle of the slowest game sales period of the year, rather than in the holiday season), it sold well. See Tiger Woods. See MySims. See Boom Blox.

And to think - they keep feeding more money into "AAA development" on the more expensive consoles, getting diminishing returns from such investment, and keep going "OK, we need to get more money off the people who are buying out games - I know, online passes (FLOP)... I know, 'cloud computing'-justified DRM (FLOP)...". If they actually learned from their mistakes, they'd figure out that their current approach just isn't working, and repeating the same process expecting a different result is insane.

 

Oh, and regarding "The mistake is that Nintendo fans constantly care (Nintendo as a company seems to have moved on)" - no, I don't care. I'm mocking EA, because EA are mock-worthy. There's a reason why they are so frequently seen as one of the worst video game developers, and often even as one of the worst companies in the US entirely. I can list of many examples of where EA has blatantly ripped people off, falsely advertised products, etc. And most of their games are of no interest to me... indeed, the few that would be of interest to me, EA have either stopped making, or due to their recent activities, I no longer have any semblance of interest in (see: SimCity).

So why bother making posts about it? Because it's fun to mock, especially when you get to mock with historical justification.