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Do you think PS4 is consumer friendly?

Yes 51 85.00%
 
No 9 15.00%
 
Total:60
Euphoria14 said:
So they re-re-re-re-reconfirmed?

You think people will believe them yet?


Nope, because some people don't want to believe it no matter how many times they have to say it.



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I think people needs to stop... just accept the PS4 will not have DRM for used games or anything else.



Heavenly_King said:
osed125 said:

With some publishers that might do "offline passes". Technically speaking is the same as PS3, but much more strict. 

Now we only need to know what companies are going to do it, this gen we'll truly see who are the "bad guys".

If they had wanted to, they could have done that this gen; so basically it is the same.  Wether or not publishers do it or not depends on them; just as this gen.

Big difference this time: MS supports DRM. I bet you that most publishers were scared to do a complete DRM system this gen, they were waiting for some console manufacturer to pull the trigger first. Now MS will get all the flaming, because they were the first to openly say they support DRM.

Now that one console fully has DRM then companies like EA won't be scared anymore, MS will get the blame, not them.

Companies won't go all out at the beginning, but little by little they will even get their biggest franchises to have DRM on consoles.



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We've already come right out and said we're not going to allow online pass. And the word "allow" is key there. Specifically with online, with PS+ requiring a charge to play online, we would not want any publisher [to charge.]

His statements are a bit contradictory but I think he means this for 1st party games. They won't have online passes for 1st party games anymore because of the PS+ payment.

In general, we're all businesses. Sony or Microsoft is never going to be able to tell EA or Activision exactly what they can do. What we like to say at PlayStation is that we set the precedent. The way we are approaching this is that we want this to be extremely consumer-friendly, extremely retailer-friendly, and extremely publisher-friendly. My personal opinion is that it's hard for me to believe that any major publisher is going to put an extra set of used DRM onto game titles because that wouldn't put them in a good spot, right?

This next part of the statement is geared towards 3rd parties. 3rd parties can put online passes for used games if they chose, but he thinks that 3rd parties won't do that in any major way. So I guess 3rd parties can put online passes and Sony won't stop them, but whether they will or not remains to be seen.

Ultimately it's the same as PS3. That's the bottom line we all need to get out of this.



 

I wish Sony will STFU about this already because its only confusing people. I almost got confused while reading this the 1st time

We know what its about so stop bringing this stupid sh!t up, Sony!



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enditall727 said:
I wish Sony will STFU about this already because its only confusing people. I almost got confused while reading this the 1st time

We know what its about so stop bringing this stupid sh!t up, Sony!

They can't because people keep on asking about it over and over again no matter how much they explain. There's some people who just can't seem to accept that M$'s machine has DRM and Sony's doesn't. To them it seems unbelievable that two companies have taken such different routes in terms of how their box operates and for some reason their boxes need to be identical, because how the box works is apparently dictated by the big publishers.

I think Sony should just reply to all questions regarding with the answer "It's the same as PS3". End it like that. But even then I think people would still ask the same question. PR must be a pretty aggravating job.



 

you can't spell backspin without SONY?



kowenicki said:
Contradiction.

Massive and obvious contradiction within that very statement. He says something and then contradicts it twice (perhaps 3 times)

If you cant see it then I suggest you read it again.

He did not.

He said no online passes as that's being covered by the need to pay for PS+ to play online in the first place. Meaning part of that revenue or costs associated with online play must be being paid for by Sony to the publishers.

Then the topic was focused on used-games in general (not online passes specifically) and he said that they can't force anyone's hand in this sense. However, they are pushing the system to not have any DRM and any publisher on their console that does put it out would be at a distinct disadvantage. So it should take care of itself as they all leave it out of the PS4 entirely.

You're just looking for something that doesn't exist in PS4. Sony may have initially been planning on having a system similar in many ways to Xbone's, but they clearly changed their tune once it was obvious the anger gamers had for DRM in general.



UltimateUnknown said:

We've already come right out and said we're not going to allow online pass. And the word "allow" is key there. Specifically with online, with PS+ requiring a charge to play online, we would not want any publisher [to charge.]

His statements are a bit contradictory but I think he means this for 1st party games. They won't have online passes for 1st party games anymore because of the PS+ payment.

In general, we're all businesses. Sony or Microsoft is never going to be able to tell EA or Activision exactly what they can do. What we like to say at PlayStation is that we set the precedent. The way we are approaching this is that we want this to be extremely consumer-friendly, extremely retailer-friendly, and extremely publisher-friendly. My personal opinion is that it's hard for me to believe that any major publisher is going to put an extra set of used DRM onto game titles because that wouldn't put them in a good spot, right?

This next part of the statement is geared towards 3rd parties. 3rd parties can put online passes for used games if they chose, but he thinks that 3rd parties won't do that in any major way. So I guess 3rd parties can put online passes and Sony won't stop them, but whether they will or not remains to be seen.

Ultimately it's the same as PS3. That's the bottom line we all need to get out of this.


Good Job. It seems that everybody needs to do alittle bit re reading. He is saying SONY wont allow their developers to use any form of paywall when they are already charging for online. 2nd paragraph is pretty much saying do at your own risk 3rd parties.



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