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eFKac on 12 June 2013
teigaga said:

Sony just need to invest in smarter teams to work with it. The key point was that the move had exclusives but they were all pretty bad. You don't require a huge budget, just some creative talent and so I think maybe it will best for sony to scoute for indie talent as opposed to getting random, subpar devs (nihilistic games) to tackle the exclusives.


Maybe you're right, that would be definitely good. 

Happily Nihilistic Software is no more :D they just can't get nStigate Games to developed games fo it :P



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platformmaster918 on 12 June 2013

I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.




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leo-j on 12 June 2013

It's not a demo, it's an actual game, sony just announced it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vv5uI2vlXE8



 

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Pristine20 on 12 June 2013
platformmaster918 said:
I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.


It's called subscription. people cried about $599 ps3 but after 6 years ps3 still = $599. PS4 on the other hand will be $399 + $300 (PS+) = $799 after 6 years for at least 50% of it's buyers.



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platformmaster918 on 12 June 2013
Pristine20 said:
platformmaster918 said:
I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.


It's called subscription. people cried about $599 ps3 but after 6 years ps3 still = $599. PS4 on the other hand will be $399 + $300 (PS+) = $799 after 6 years for at least 50% of it's buyers.

that is true but Live and the Xbox One still cost more and doesn't allow access for apps without it.  Also MMOs and free to play games don't require plus.  I wonder if Live is a requirement for the online check ins and by extension the system.




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Wagram on 12 June 2013

That got me more excited then the Kinect or Move.



Pristine20 on 12 June 2013
platformmaster918 said:
Pristine20 said:
platformmaster918 said:
I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.


It's called subscription. people cried about $599 ps3 but after 6 years ps3 still = $599. PS4 on the other hand will be $399 + $300 (PS+) = $799 after 6 years for at least 50% of it's buyers.

that is true but Live and the Xbox One still cost more and doesn't allow access for apps without it.  Also MMOs and free to play games don't require plus.  I wonder if Live is a requirement for the online check ins and by extension the system.


XBL was a paid service because M$ could get away with it. WHen PSN launched with such barebones stuff, , the price for live was almost justifiable. Now M$ cant reneg on such a beneficial revenue stream as it was one of the reasons they could sell $99 360s among other things. Sony on the other hand never got to apply those bonus dollars till now and they're putting it towards a price cut.

I wont be surprised if the X1 HW is more expensive than ps4 to manufacture afterall M$ has been undercutting Sony's price last gen and could afford to take more losses so it's surprising that they will fail to do so this time around...or was $499 just part of their arrogance expecting people to think ps4 was junk?. The new kinect seems like a really expensive device on its own.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

platformmaster918 on 12 June 2013
Pristine20 said:
platformmaster918 said:
Pristine20 said:
platformmaster918 said:
I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.


It's called subscription. people cried about $599 ps3 but after 6 years ps3 still = $599. PS4 on the other hand will be $399 + $300 (PS+) = $799 after 6 years for at least 50% of it's buyers.

that is true but Live and the Xbox One still cost more and doesn't allow access for apps without it.  Also MMOs and free to play games don't require plus.  I wonder if Live is a requirement for the online check ins and by extension the system.


XBL was a paid service because M$ could get away with it. WHen PSN launched with such barebones stuff, , the price for live was almost justifiable. Now M$ cant reneg on such a beneficial revenue stream as it was one of the reasons they could sell $99 360s among other things. Sony on the other hand never got to apply those bonus dollars till now and they're putting it towards a price cut.

I wont be surprised if the X1 HW is more expensive than ps4 to manufacture afterall M$ has been undercutting Sony's price last gen and could afford to take more losses so it's surprising that they will fail to do so this time around...or was $499 just part of their arrogance expecting people to think ps4 was junk?. The new kinect seems like a really expensive device on its own.

isn't smaller stuff supposed to be more expensive too?  And PS4 is significantly more short and less wide than Xbone.




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adriane23 on 12 June 2013

Pretty incredible. SONY mastered motion controls confirmed.



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Pristine20 on 12 June 2013
platformmaster918 said:
Pristine20 said:
platformmaster918 said:
Pristine20 said:
platformmaster918 said:
I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.


It's called subscription. people cried about $599 ps3 but after 6 years ps3 still = $599. PS4 on the other hand will be $399 + $300 (PS+) = $799 after 6 years for at least 50% of it's buyers.

that is true but Live and the Xbox One still cost more and doesn't allow access for apps without it.  Also MMOs and free to play games don't require plus.  I wonder if Live is a requirement for the online check ins and by extension the system.


XBL was a paid service because M$ could get away with it. WHen PSN launched with such barebones stuff, , the price for live was almost justifiable. Now M$ cant reneg on such a beneficial revenue stream as it was one of the reasons they could sell $99 360s among other things. Sony on the other hand never got to apply those bonus dollars till now and they're putting it towards a price cut.

I wont be surprised if the X1 HW is more expensive than ps4 to manufacture afterall M$ has been undercutting Sony's price last gen and could afford to take more losses so it's surprising that they will fail to do so this time around...or was $499 just part of their arrogance expecting people to think ps4 was junk?. The new kinect seems like a really expensive device on its own.

isn't smaller stuff supposed to be more expensive too?  And PS4 is significantly more short and less wide than Xbone.

I read somewhere (I think Kotaku) that X1 was made to be large on purpose so it could stay in the center of the livingroom and control everything with no need for other devices. One device to do everything...



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler