PS4: The Playroom - amazing DS4 & PS4Eye tech demo

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platformmaster918 said:

Pristine20 said:

platformmaster918 said:
I'm still wondering how the hell PS4 is cheaper. I mean they put so much more into the controller (internal battery, light bar, speaker, touch pad) and have so much more in the box how the hell is it $100 cheaper and apparently making a profit? I mean the Eye is being sold for $60 (which I'm getting with mine) so it would still be cheaper.

It's called subscription. people cried about $599 ps3 but after 6 years ps3 still = $599. PS4 on the other hand will be $399 + $300 (PS+) = $799 after 6 years for at least 50% of it's buyers.

that is true but Live and the Xbox One still cost more and doesn't allow access for apps without it.  Also MMOs and free to play games don't require plus.  I wonder if Live is a requirement for the online check ins and by extension the system.

XBL was a paid service because M$ could get away with it. WHen PSN launched with such barebones stuff, , the price for live was almost justifiable. Now M$ cant reneg on such a beneficial revenue stream as it was one of the reasons they could sell $99 360s among other things. Sony on the other hand never got to apply those bonus dollars till now and they're putting it towards a price cut.

I wont be surprised if the X1 HW is more expensive than ps4 to manufacture afterall M$ has been undercutting Sony's price last gen and could afford to take more losses so it's surprising that they will fail to do so this time around...or was $499 just part of their arrogance expecting people to think ps4 was junk?. The new kinect seems like a really expensive device on its own.