Well i would not midn getting Brawl+ its not like you cant play brawl nomle once you get brawl+ its just a pain to get it to work from what i seen and you need a ds card with a reader i think. How hard was it ivo?

You need an SD card. Most computers now have readers built in.

Its not that it makes it harder, it makes it so that defense takes the backseat to offense. Even facing the CPU whenever I take a hit I usually don't just take one hit, the CPU follows it up with 2 or 3 more at low percentages. Due to the lack of knockback decay KO shots are always KO shots so you don't often get up to 200% while trying to KO Dedede off the top anymore. Hell if I survive with Dedede past 120 its a good job.

A lot of characters had balance changes and some characters were reskinned to make telling them apart in teams less of a hassle. Sonic for instance, has his skin changed to red and green when on those teams.

I thought Kirby had good grab combos before. I can get certain characters over 80% with a grab combo now :x Dedede sadly seems to have turned into a punching bag. Big target and a lost grab game weaken him more then I thought it would. I find it hard to win with him against the CPU at lvl 9 when with Kirby I can 4 stock almost every time :/

I need to drag a friend over to face. I wanna try playing against someone now.

On a side note~ Tried Peach and she might become my main for Brawl+. She's far better in the Brawl+ environment.

well king ddd should take hits more offten then faster chaters i do not know why they gave him such a crazy spot dodges it dose not seem to fit with his chater. i read sheik good in braw + and i kinda hope that there is going to be set up for braw + torments.

Brawl+ still isn't released in pal regions is it?

Oh well i'll have fun with my wavedashing and l cancel hacks >_>

Ok that show over with lol good ending i must say going to take me weeks to get it all the way! Any one up for a game of smash!?

Ewww ever one quit that game and emetly got off line /cry!

Good games Sherlock, Luin, Shea and Mario.
It was fun. Can't believe my skullbash lost too Shizzlee's Luigi's Headbutt. T_T
Also, Luin and Shizzlee, you girls can aim your Falcon Paunches really well. haha

Eruptions and Shieldbreakers are more fitting for me though. ^_^

I can imagine having her Crown Slap always at full power being very useful!

Also since theres no auto ledge grabbing with Up-Bs Peach's Down Tilt can also have chances to spike. I've gotten pretty good at spiking with it :P

On a side note, the increased hit stun also means most spikes are 1 shot KOs on anyone that isn't a dreamlander, Pit, or Charizard. Spiked a Sonic off stage at 0% with Charizard (who had his spike sped way up) and his spring jump didn't save him successfully. Also noticed the increased gravity makes it unsafe for a lot of characters to air dodge off stage.

Is Brawl + playable online if you play with someone who has the same version as you?

yes i think.

Any one up for smash?