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Zekkyou on 11 June 2013
Machiavellian said:
BloodyRain said:
Machiavellian said:
Ahh but things are not over yet. Because of MS DRM, what if they dropped games to 40 or even 30 because of their restrictions and Sony still have to charge 60. Of course this is just pie in the sky type of thinking about with MS system so locked down, it could happen to negate Sony no DRM.

I get what you're saying, but I don't think ms has the power to dictate the price of games. I think there is a standard set in the industry, lets say ms could, it would be first party only. There's no way in hell are 3rd parties going to charge cheaper

Thats the beauty of this DRM system.  Publishers and developers will be fine with lower margins on games if they are always getting money when a game is sold.  MStake a cut on what they take and publishers will be more friendly with a more friendly price on the X1.  Since Sony system is pretty much the same, that mean publishers will have to fight the 2nd hand game market just like they do now.

I doubt this will happen but you never know if the X1 start out of the game really show and MS has to do something to get things kicked started.  I know for a fact people are willing to put up with DRM if the price is right because we have seen so within these forums.

The thing is the used games market, though certainly taking profits away, isn't cutting them down by a large % (defiantly not the 50% needed to justify $60 down to $30). At the very most I could see them going from $60 to $50, but to be honest i doubt they will. Would make more sense for them to just pocket the extra profit.



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DamnTastic on 11 June 2013

Sunset Overdrive left a big scar with me... ;'(

Ryse looks like another Crysis. Good graphics, good cinematics, bad gameplay.



Mmmfishtacos on 11 June 2013

My god, ms brought the games? Don't think so. Ms never had e3 or this gen. The only thing worth talking about was Titanfall, and it's not exclusive. What ever people, Sony had it from the word go.



AnthonyW86 on 11 June 2013

Don't be so sure on the price yet, i don't think MS will let this one fly and will release a $399 model. They have much more money than Sony, they are not letting them have this advantage.



Legend11 on 11 June 2013

As far as games go I think MS had the best conference as TitanFall, Dead Rising 3, D4, and Sunset Overdrive all looked pretty solid (some people seem to think Final Fantasy 15 and Kingdom Hearts 3 are exclusive but as we've been reminded many times by fanboys if they don't say they're exclusive and they're not 1st or 2nd party published games then assume they're not).



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Legend11 on 11 June 2013
AnthonyW86 said:
Don't be so sure on the price yet, i don't think MS will let this one fly and will release a $399 model. They have much more money than Sony, they are not letting them have this advantage.


I think they'll probably still launch at $499 but we'll probably see a price cut sooner rather than later as they likely have far more room to cut price.



Porcupine_I on 11 June 2013
JoeFlex said:
What is even more interesting to me is Sony BARLEY showed their hand. No second Naughty Dog team, No Santa Monica showing (Ready at Dawn does not count as SSM's game under Stig), No LBP3, No word of Guerilla's Second IP and no mentioned of The Last Guardian - even though the creator said it is done. Clearly they are saving up for later. Sony came out swinging and managed so save their aces, while MSFT supposedly played their best hand. It was well played.


Sony traditionally keeps some reaveals for other shows, like TGS and Gamescom.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

AnthonyW86 on 11 June 2013
Legend11 said:
AnthonyW86 said:
Don't be so sure on the price yet, i don't think MS will let this one fly and will release a $399 model. They have much more money than Sony, they are not letting them have this advantage.


I think they'll probably still launch at $499 but we'll probably see a price cut sooner rather than later as they likely have far more room to cut price.

We don't know anything about hard drive space tough. Xbox One could have 1tb or even more and PS4 500gb. If that's the case MS could bring a $399 500 gb model and a $499 1 tb model, maybe including 1 year of free gold in the latter. That way the don't even really change anything.



Lafiel on 11 June 2013
AnthonyW86 said:

We don't know anything about hard drive space tough. Xbox One could have 1tb or even more and PS4 500gb. If that's the case MS could bring a $399 500 gb model and a $499 1 tb model, maybe including 1 year of free gold in the latter. That way the don't even really change anything.

as at the reveal MS only spoke about a 500GB xbox one model I think it's 98% safe to assume that the 499 pricing is for that one (and I personally doubt they have a second one for release)



Legend11 on 11 June 2013
Slimebeast said:
I don't feel bad for Microsoft but I feel bad for Xbox fans. It must be a very tough time to be an Xbox fan. They're gonna be the constant underdog all through the generation.

I actually like that they're in this position because they're now forced to have to try instead of just coasting along like they did with the 360 in later years.  I mean if it was business as usual would we really have seen an E3 from them that was almost entirely games?  I think the same thing will happen to them that was forced on Sony, a major expansion in the size of their first party.  That and they'll throw around more money buying exclusives and contracting out third parties to make more games for them.