Are you jumping out because of the loss of free multiplayer? | |||
| Yes | 191 | 17.83% | |
| No | 708 | 66.11% | |
| See Results | 172 | 16.06% | |
| Total: | 1,071 | ||
I swear a lot of the posters on this site read "Water" but it registers as "Lava" in their minds.
4 ≈ One
| Chandler said:
You just can't deny that this situation is just hilarious. The exact same people who were bashing Live for pawalled online are now up in arms defending the exact same policy on Sony's side. The colors shine so bright, it's amazing.
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In the same ilk it's hilarious that the people who defended XBL all these years are now acting like PS4 doing the same is a travesty.
| Fifaguy360 said: The alternative is to buy XboxOne where XBL subscription is MANDATORY to play games offline or online. It regresses into a bluray player if it doesn't connect once every 24 hours to XBL. PSN+ is still optional and you can still use netflix and other apps. Only online MP is the restriction. |
XBL silver is free. You definitely don't need to pay to play games offline on either console >_>
hatmoza said:
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Money? You mean i could be paid in money? Wow, this is gonna be great!
“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”
- George Orwell, ‘1984’
Nyleveia said:
In the same ilk it's hilarious that the people who defended XBL all these years are now acting like PS4 doing the same is a travesty. |
Show me those people.
Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.
looks like there will be real free to play (no ps+ needed) titles for PS4 anyway and double-subscriptions for sub based MMOs might not be required either
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=585651
| Lafiel said: looks like there will be real free to play (no ps+ needed) titles for PS4 anyway and double-subscriptions for sub based MMOs might not be required either http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=585651 |
The right thing to do it would be: if multiplayer mode relies heavily on Sony servers, PSN+ fee required, if it relies on 3rd party ones (including publishers' own servers) and/or if it's P2P multiplayer where most of the resources are provided by the users machines themselves, while Sony servers just manage the initial handshaking amongst the players, free PSN subscription should be enough. Obviously Sony could reserve advanced matchmaking functions, leagues, every trophy system that it doesn't normally provide also for single player, etc only to pay subscribers. BTW this system could blend perfectly with the stuff you quoted about MMOGs, where the MMOG's publisher provides almost all the resources needed for the game, and charges the user for them (unless it's based on advertising and/or sales of extra game items), so it would be unfair to add another mandatory fee on top of it while not giving almost anything in return.
| Nyleveia said: In the same ilk it's hilarious that the people who defended XBL all these years are now acting like PS4 doing the same is a travesty. |
Most of those people will tell you they were really paying $60 a year for cross game chat.
Alby_da_Wolf said:
The right thing to do it would be: if multiplayer mode relies heavily on Sony servers, PSN+ fee required, if it relies on 3rd party ones (including publishers' own servers) and/or if it's P2P multiplayer where most of the resources are provided by the users machines themselves, while Sony servers just manage the initial handshaking amongst the players, free PSN subscription should be enough. Obviously Sony could reserve advanced matchmaking functions, leagues, every trophy system that it doesn't normally provide also for single player, etc only to pay subscribers. BTW this system could blend perfectly with the stuff you quoted about MMOGs, where the MMOG's publisher provides almost all the resources needed for the game, and charges the user for them (unless it's based on advertising and/or sales of extra game items), so it would be unfair to add another mandatory fee on top of it while not giving almost anything in return. |
It's probably not completely out of the question.
The whole split "some games you can play online without PSN+, some games you can't" would be a bit confusing to some users, and so at the very least, SCE will no longer be using the "online play is always free" marketing bullet they've been using for the PS3 (which will remain free if what was announced remains true).
But, I can see games that require some sort of subscription that are presumably running off developer's servers, or free to play games that again, are running off the developer's own servers, that wouldn't require PSN+ subscriptions to play in the interest of having the broadest audience available.
And while I acknowledge that PSN+ subscriptions are going to be the majority rather than the minority with the PS4, there will still be some developers who want access to the entire PS4 userbase.
At any rate, I'm curious to see what will actually be available to basic PSN accounts when the PS4 goes online. Even though I let my PSN+ service go, if I start playing more once my PS4 arrives, there's very little reason why I wouldn't renew.
I just want to know if my UK account will be able to play online(I have a US PSN+ acc). If not then F*ck you Sony!
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