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Hynad on 13 June 2013
Adinnieken said:
Hynad said:
Adinnieken said:
Did I say it didn't carry over or that it wouldn't work across other devices?

Nope.  As I followed up, $4.99 (59.99/12) would be less than $5.00.


If it carries over, why would you pay 4.17$ a month for it on the PS3, yet 5 for the PS4? ¬_¬

If what you're implying is that they'll jack up the price, then hurry up and go buy a year subscription or two right away. 

But that won't be necessary. Cause you're just blatantly wrong.

Eventually a 12 month subscription ends.  If the prices was going up, then you'd have to renew at the higher price.

I was basing it on the slide and what was said during the presentation.  The fact that a media outlet needed to get it clarified means it wasn't as black and white as you're trying to imply.


It was pretty obvious to me. 

But it doesn't matter in the end. You were proven wrong. 



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atma998 on 13 June 2013
Carl2291 said:
atma998 said:

Simple. Nintendo release their big titles (Mario 3D, Mario Kart, Zelda and Super Smash Bros.) + a possible price cut = Sales getting better.

Expensive consoles like Xbone and PS4 will get decent launches due to hardcore MS and Sony fans getting the console on day 1. Then, the sales will go down the same way PS3 and X360 did in their first years. The PS3 was selling near 50k/week and the X360 was selling near 75k/week at that time. Looking how the market is now in comparison with 2005-2006, I won't be too surprised to see Xbox one and PS4 selling in the 25k-50k/week range in their first year on the market.

Im not arguing against Nintendo dragging the Wii U out of the hole, because I genuinely think it will do well next Year with support and a price cut. What Im arguing against is the frankly ridiculous thought that the PS4 and Xbox One will be selling 25,000 units per week only a few months from launch.

The consumer is desperate for a new generation of hardware. These consoles will be supported, a lot, by 1st parties and 3rd parties. A console that costs $399 can still sell, as long as it has compelling content and the press is behind it. You need to remember why the PS3 sold like it did during the early years. It was because it was $600, far more expensive than the competition and had literally nothing good worth playing.

We know for a fact that the PS4 wont have this problem because its still relatively cheap and has support. The One Im not too sure on, because of the $499 price tag, despite good support.

The Wii U has been selling like it has, because software support for the machine has been non-existant from both Nintendo and 3rd parties. The PS4 and Xbox One wont have that problem.

I didnt know that a 400$ console can be considered as ''relatively cheap'' console.

Anyway, the X360 launched at 400$ too (300$ for basic model) back in 2005 and it sold between 60k and 80k weekly during the low season of its first two years on the market.

If you take into consideration that today's market is nowhere near as the 2005-2006 market (due to economy, iphone&tablet gaming, etc.), you won't think that sales in the 25k-50k range during the low season is a ''ridiculous thought''.



Carl on 13 June 2013
atma998 said:

I didnt know that a 400$ console can be considered as ''relatively cheap'' console.

Anyway, the X360 launched at 400$ too (300$ for basic model) back in 2005 and it sold between 60k and 80k weekly during the low season of its first two years on the market.

If you take into consideration that today's market is nowhere near as the 2005-2006 market (due to economy, iphone&tablet gaming, etc.), you won't think that sales in the 25k-50k range during the low season is a ''ridiculous thought''.


Hmm, fair point with the 360 and the price, though the games releasing on the console at the time were nothing like what we have releasing on One/PS4, as there was also competition from a PS2 that was still selling 150k+ per week and dominating support

I guess we will find out soon enough, but I really just cant see it being possible for them to do as bad as Wii U when the support will be there.



                            

Adinnieken on 13 June 2013
Hynad said:

It was pretty obvious to me. 

But it doesn't matter in the end. You were proven wrong. 

Not by you.



Attoyou on 13 June 2013

Xbox fans are starting to get strange.



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Hynad on 13 June 2013
Adinnieken said:
Hynad said:

It was pretty obvious to me. 

But it doesn't matter in the end. You were proven wrong. 

Not by you.


Ha ha ha. That's cute. =)



VGKing on 13 June 2013
Adinnieken said:

One Year of Xbox LIVE is included for the "Day One" consoles.  However, every box thereafter will include a free Xbox LIVE subscription in it. 

No it doesn't. http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Console-Day-Edition/dp/B00CMQTVK0/ref=zg_bs_videogames_2

"The Day One console includes a commemorative controller, token code to unlock an exclusive Day One achievement, and premium packaging at no additional cost"

That's it. No free Xbox Live membership.



Adinnieken on 13 June 2013
VGKing said:
Adinnieken said:

One Year of Xbox LIVE is included for the "Day One" consoles.  However, every box thereafter will include a free Xbox LIVE subscription in it. 

No it doesn't. http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Console-Day-Edition/dp/B00CMQTVK0/ref=zg_bs_videogames_2

"The Day One console includes a commemorative controller, token code to unlock an exclusive Day One achievement, and premium packaging at no additional cost"

That's it. No free Xbox Live membership.





Adinnieken on 13 June 2013
VGKing said:
Adinnieken said:
VGKing said:
Adinnieken said:
riecsou said:

"if you intend to pick up the PS 4 Eye/Camera and a one year sub to PS+". That says i need only $400 dollar + tax to start playing the PS4, cause PS4 Eye and PS+ sub are optional

"Even if you don't add both, the difference is onlyl $40. " Nope the difference is $100 if I don't had both. "Simple math, as  a matter of fact."

My suggestion there was that you'd at least pick-up PS+.  If so, I'm correct.  If not, you are correct.

My point is that Microsoft is including two things that you'd otherwise have to pay for on the PS4.

Sony isn't including the PS Eye because they know people don't want it.  No point is force bundling anything but the absolute necessary.

What's the second thing that's included for free on Xbox One?

One Year of Xbox LIVE is included for the "Day One" consoles.  However, every box thereafter will include a free Xbox LIVE subscription in it. 

No it doesn't. http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-One-Console-Day-Edition/dp/B00CMQTVK0/ref=zg_bs_videogames_2

"The Day One console includes a commemorative controller, token code to unlock an exclusive Day One achievement, and premium packaging at no additional cost"

That's it. No free Xbox Live membership.

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Would you like to reverse your statement now.



JerCotter7 on 13 June 2013
Adinnieken said:
naruball said:

Sorry I'm terrible at looking up threads and posts from random people from sites I visit, but if you look at any of Kowenicki's posts, especially the one about inflation you'll see what I'm talking about. Several people are saying that in terms of value, it's worth the money they're  asking for since it provides one year of Live and kinect which costs a lot. Some argue that it's actually cheaper than the ps4 if you take just those two things into account. Also, several people have mentioned having pre-ordered one already, though I'm not sure if they've stated that they have an issue with the price (though the fact that they pre-ordered shows that it's not a deal breaker).

If you assume the price of the PS4 Eye ($59.99) and a one-year sub to PS+($60), the cost for the Xbox One becomes $380.00.

In case you all missed it, the price of PS+ is $60.00 for the PS4.  In the E3 presentation, Sony mentioned for just $5.00 a month...etc.  5x12=60.


The xbox one does not become $380. Terrible argument.