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Subie_Greg on 09 June 2013
ironmanDX said:
Subie_Greg said:
ironmanDX said:

Many people, devs, publishers whatever have said the same about second hand being a problem.

www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-17-bethesda-vp-used-games-are-absolutely-a-concern

EB here in Australia have a rewards system that rewards you more for buying second hand games and trading in.

https://www.ebgames.com.au/EBWorld/about

It's a problem.

Then why do they give these stores the preorder bonuses that you can't even get when you buy Digital?

If they were to match and/or beat retail with digital then used games wouldn't be a problem. Still fault falls on the Publishers

Then why hate on the X1?


This wasn't about the Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, PC, 3DS, Vita, 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, PS2, Xbox Gamecube or any one console

It's about how Publishers should be giving the consumer more reason to buy digital than you don't have to leave your house. Digital should be the answer to used games. Not Console wide DRM



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JWeinCom on 09 June 2013
ironmanDX said:
JWeinCom said:
ironmanDX said:

Many people, devs, publishers whatever have said the same about second hand being a problem.

www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-17-bethesda-vp-used-games-are-absolutely-a-concern

EB here in Australia have a rewards system that rewards you more for buying second hand games and trading in.

https://www.ebgames.com.au/EBWorld/about

It's a problem.


And the solution is making arrangements and deals with Gamestop/Best Buy/etc. rather than punishing gamers.

There would be too many parties involved to reach an agreement in even a year. Different devs would want a higher percentage than others, then the others would complain...

So... instead of negotiating with publishers, they decided to fuck over gamers?  Well, that's their choice.  Hope it doesn't work out for them.



ironmanDX on 09 June 2013
Subie_Greg said:
ironmanDX said:
Subie_Greg said:
 

Then why do they give these stores the preorder bonuses that you can't even get when you buy Digital?

If they were to match and/or beat retail with digital then used games wouldn't be a problem. Still fault falls on the Publishers

Then why hate on the X1?


This wasn't about the Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, PC, 3DS, Vita, 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, PS2, Xbox Gamecube or any one console

It's about how Publishers should be giving the consumer more reason to buy digital than you don't have to leave your house. Digital should be the answer to used games. Not Console wide DRM


Just connecting to the internet every 24 hours to downloading 25-50gb games is a huge jump... An all online console probably just won't work yet.

 

Made an edit... It didn't make sense!!



ironmanDX on 09 June 2013
JWeinCom said:
ironmanDX said:

There would be too many parties involved to reach an agreement in even a year. Different devs would want a higher percentage than others, then the others would complain...

So... instead of negotiating with publishers, they decided to fuck over gamers?  Well, that's their choice.  Hope it doesn't work out for them.

Would the publishers negotiate is the question that should be asked first... Several shades before "fuck ms" surely...

Would you as a CEO or similar for a company hold your product a year off the market just to watch devs scream at each-other? Meanwhile Sony has free reign for a year? I wouldn't.



chapset on 09 June 2013

People think once the use game market is dead on consoles games will be cheaper online, LOL what a bunch of ****** there are so many cases right now where the games are way more expansive on PSN or XBL than their are at retail



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Subie_Greg on 09 June 2013
ironmanDX said:
Subie_Greg said:
ironmanDX said:
Subie_Greg said:
 

Then why do they give these stores the preorder bonuses that you can't even get when you buy Digital?

If they were to match and/or beat retail with digital then used games wouldn't be a problem. Still fault falls on the Publishers

Then why hate on the X1?


This wasn't about the Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, PC, 3DS, Vita, 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, PS2, Xbox Gamecube or any one console

It's about how Publishers should be giving the consumer more reason to buy digital than you don't have to leave your house. Digital should be the answer to used games. Not Console wide DRM


Just connecting to the internet every 24 hours to downloading 25-50gb games is a huge jump... An all online console probably just won't work yet.

 

Made an edit... It didn't make sense!!


Who said anything about an all online console? Just that Publishers should push Digital sales and make the consumers prefer Digital over retail



ironmanDX on 09 June 2013
Subie_Greg said:
ironmanDX said:


Just connecting to the internet every 24 hours to downloading 25-50gb games is a huge jump... An all online console probably just won't work yet.

 

Made an edit... It didn't make sense!!


Who said anything about an all online console? Just that Publishers should push Digital sales and make the consumers prefer Digital over retail

I know, but making consumers prefer that could lead to an all online console. It's the logical next step! It might just be out of reach right now.



Yunero on 09 June 2013

I agree that the price of downloads is far too steep. The same goes with TV shows on iTunes, no wonder people resort to piracy when download prices are actually INCREASING (last year iTunes TV show prices went up by like 20%).



theprof00 on 09 June 2013

Nhl is by ea. What did you expect?



Subie_Greg on 09 June 2013
theprof00 said:
Nhl is by ea. What did you expect?


Right but there are more examples... both 3rd party and 1st party games