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Must be nice to be able to complain about not being able to rent video games. I haven't been able to since they took all the Blockbusters out of Canada a few years ago :(



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DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:

So I can access my whole library at every Xbox One out there, just by logging in with my account and without any discs?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

 

And people with 18.000 posts on a gaming forum complaining about connecting the console to the internet can not be taken seriously. I am sorry.

 

Actually this is very good news. VERY GOOD.


Im sure being told you're restricted is a great thing...somehow. Enjoy it.

Restricted?

Feel free to name me another console that allows you to access all (every single one!) your games on every console, just by logging in.

Any console that let's me play my games from a disc and/or cartridge.



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Euphoria14 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DirtyP2002 said:

So I can access my whole library at every Xbox One out there, just by logging in with my account and without any discs?

A-W-E-S-O-M-E !

 

And people with 18.000 posts on a gaming forum complaining about connecting the console to the internet can not be taken seriously. I am sorry.

 

Actually this is very good news. VERY GOOD.


Im sure being told you're restricted is a great thing...somehow. Enjoy it.

Restricted?

Feel free to name me another console that allows you to access all (every single one!) your games on every console, just by logging in.

Any console that let's me play my games from a disc and/or cartridge.

I said: "Just by logging in" your response: "Inserting the disc". See the difference.
And as I said, you can still do that on the Xbox One as well.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

Hmm, it could be worse...but there's some stuff there that does worry me. How hard can it be to let you borrow games?



 

Here lies the dearly departed Nintendomination Thread.

DirtyP2002 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

Connectivity

- Recommended connection of 1.5Mbps
- System is designed to verify if system, application or game updates are needed and to see if you have acquired new games, or resold, traded in, or given your game to a friend
- Games that are designed to take advantage of the cloud may require a connection
- Play offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console
- Play offline up to one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library
Can’t game offline after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and Blu-ray and DVD movies

 

We are screwed. Speaking for a lot of countries in Asia. It's like no Xbone for you.

Which countries in Asia are you talking about?

http://www.elist10.com/worlds-top-10-countries-slow-internet-connection/

http://royal.pingdom.com/2013/01/31/asia-extremes-internet-speeds/

Hong-kong, S. Korean and Japan are up there but for the most part, most countires have a slow connection.

Here in the Philippines the normal speed of the internet you will find for the common folks is below 1Mbps. We are practically screwed and thunder storms and heavy rain, good luck with a stable connection when there's one. 

Edit

For those who are ok with it. Try living here when sometimes a connection loss will last for 1-2 days or worse for weeks. It 's a common occurence here becauce I.m been there.

Imagine I  have an Xbone and I can't even play games with it becasue I don't have an internet connection.



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I see so many "I don't have regular people issues, so who gives a shit" posts.



iPhone = Great gaming device. Don't agree? Who cares, because you're wrong.

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Final Fantasy VI (iOS), Final Fantasy: Record Keeper (iOS) & Dragon Quest V (iOS)     

    

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NoCtiS_NoX said:
DirtyP2002 said:
NoCtiS_NoX said:

Connectivity

- Recommended connection of 1.5Mbps
- System is designed to verify if system, application or game updates are needed and to see if you have acquired new games, or resold, traded in, or given your game to a friend
- Games that are designed to take advantage of the cloud may require a connection
- Play offline for up to 24 hours on your primary console
- Play offline up to one hour if you are logged on to a separate console accessing your library
Can’t game offline after these prescribed times until you re-establish a connection, but you can still watch live TV and Blu-ray and DVD movies

 

We are screwed. Speaking for a lot of countries in Asia. It's like no Xbone for you.

Which countries in Asia are you talking about?

http://www.elist10.com/worlds-top-10-countries-slow-internet-connection/

http://royal.pingdom.com/2013/01/31/asia-extremes-internet-speeds/

Hong-kong, S. Korean and Japan are up there but for the most part, most countires have a slow connection.

Here in the Philippines the normal speed of the internet you will find for the common folks is below 1Mbps. We are practically screwed and thunder storms and heavy rain, good luck with a stable connection when there's one. 

Edit

For those who are ok with it. Try living here when sometimes a connection loss will last for 1-2 days or worse for weeks. It 's a common occurence here becauce I.m been there.

Imagine I  have an Xbone and I can't even play games with it becasue I don't have an internet connection.


Okay, too bad for Iran, Nigeria, Lybia and Nepal.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

The only con to me is the 24 hour connection. I have the internet to do this, but its still a pain. In fact, most posters here shouldn't have this problem, this really affects South America, certain Europe countries and other lesser markets. People posting here and on other gaming forums clearly have a stable internet connection. But still, it is weird that you can't play a single player game while offline.

The rest at least are good news to me. Lending policies are actually better then Steam and IOS. And Sony is adopting the same stance on used games, deferring to the publisher. You have full control over kinect

So really, its just the 24 hour connection thingy that MS has to fix and fix fast



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

TimCliveroller said:
Cubedramirez said:
Sealed the deal, already have a Wii U and will be picking up only the PS4. As a GameFly member and someone who borrows out and borrows games from friends and coworkers this isn't going to work for me, plus I refuse to pay for or purchase a console that requires me to check in with them when and where I play. I travel quite a bit and take my console of choice with me.

Nice knowing you MS. My dollars will go to Japan.

Are you hoping to borrow ... for example - EA games on the PS4?

EA titles don't interest me outside of Mass Effect and after the last installment its not a must have. I bought a PS3 for their 1st and 2nd party titles, ala the same reason why I bought a Wii U. But the point is valid, however didn't EA drop the online pass nonsense?

Either way, EA is like activision on my radar. A non factor. 



S.T.A.G.E. said:
dane007 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
TomNinetyTwo said:

What I don't understand is this family sharing thing, does my entire family have to be using the same gamertag for it to work?


No. You have to give your family members permission in the parental controls. MS doesn't tell me what to do or how to play my game. If I buy a game and can hold it in my hand do not tell me where it can be used. As long as I dont replicate it and sell it STFU.



But lending it to people who won't spend a dime on gmaes which developers spent put their sweat and tears is a crime. They need to make a living just liek we do so each time a friend or anyone that borrows a game and finishes the sp campaign and then plays multiplayer for free hurts them. Just look how many good devleopers studio shut down because they didn't sell anough cOpies of teh game? . The used market and secondhand market in my opinion should be closed down for good a swe need to support gaming develoeprs if we wanat to game 50 years down the track. However i do beleive that if they go down this road ,, then shoould reduce teh price of the game a bit to make it more enticing to buy.


Dude...I am not advocating piracy or anything. The right of ownership of a game which separates console gaming from PC gaming majorly is that you have the right to do as you please with your one copy of your game whether it be lending it out, collecting or reselling as long as you do not break the contract of recreating the product and selling it at a profit. There is nothing wrong with lending out a product. Gamestop will definitely treat Wii U and PS4 gamers better than Xbox One ownersn now that the Azure network has been put into place. They'll put on a straight face and say everything is ok, but once their bottom line starts dropping watch how much they lower your credit and increase prices on games. At this point you might as well just buy an Xbox One game new every time. Theres no way the price of anything is going to be reduced digital or not if the physical copies are still in demand. If they do they will have to have the hardware with HDD space.


"The right of ownership of a game which separates console gaming from PC gaming majorly is that you have the right to do as you please with your one copy of your game whether it be lending it out, collecting or reselling as long as you do not break the contract of recreating the product and selling it at a profit. "

Actually  when you buy a game, you never really own it. This kind of stuff hav ebene on for a long time  but we didn't notice it until now as now it will be monitored really closely. When you buy a game, you are only paying fro teh license to use and thats it. The game is not yoru still,, you just bought tehe permission to plaay it. Proof  can be found in resistance 2 end user agreement. Link to the quote and Quote below :

 

" (http://us.playstation.com/games/useragreement/resistance-2-ps3.html):

GRANT OF LICENSE. SCEA grants you a non-exclusive right to use this software for personal, non-commercial play on a PlayStation® computer entertainment system only. You may not (i) rent, lease or sublicense the software, (ii) modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, decompile or disassemble the software, (iii) attempt to create the source code from the object code for the software, or (iv) download game content for any purpose other than game play. You have no proprietary rights in any game content including game play statistics. SCEA may modify such content at any time for any reason. This software may include time and use restrictions. For time and use restrictions regarding this software, visit "

 

As you can see above, it was happening behign our noses this gen and even on sony consoles. So you can't just say MS is th eeveil one when it also occurs on a sony console. It just that itr wasn't really monitored closely. Based on the reveal from MS you can see it wasn't MS decsion to do it as the fee and how you can share is entirely up to publishers much like what sony said in their reveal. Theres a problem lendign a product if you milliosn of peopel aroudn world rely on just borrowing their friends game without having to pay adime for it and enjoyign the benefits of a sp campaign and multiplayer. That my friend is piracy not matter how you try to twist the fact. Where i am from , vendors sell fake games and peopel buy them and since Xbox 360 uses DVds its easy to borrow a game from yoru friend and burn it to a blank dvd and play it. Have done that when i ws younger on the ps1 and ps2.