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guys..just leave disolitude alone; your obviously aren't going to change his opinions...it's like the unstoppable force meeets the immovable object...neither of you guys are going to change eachothers opinion, just let it rest



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Zizzla_Rachet said:
Cirio said:
So what if you're a college/university student living in dorms and your campus doesn't allow internet connection for video game consoles? What if you're someone in the armed forces and you can't access the internet?


Niche Install bases..Your argument is invalid

Niche install bases? So just because they're smaller in number, it's okay to prevent them from playing video games?

Edit: I guess the millions of 360 owners who don't have an internet connection are also a "niche" userbase to you...



Zizzla_Rachet said:
Carl2291 said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:

What makes you think that the 8th gen will last 15 years..let alone 20

Im thinking more for retro purposes.

People still play SNES. People still play old school PC games. People still play PSone games. Etc.

When Microsoft eventually drop the Xbox One servers, which they will, is the Xbox One just going to literally be a TV box?

your sorta right about retro purposes..but I feel your streching it way to much..People still play SNES for retro purposes but it's not in the same light as to saying that people still play old school pc games..on PC hardware requirements only go up...so it's easier to play and old school PC on a mediocore gaming PC...Consoles become obsolete..Like the SNES for Example and it's cartridges..N64 and Game Cube are also obsolete game formats...Look how fast the DreamCast dispeared due to it's obsolete format(compared to dvd formats used by ps2 and xbox)...PC games have yet to become obsolete becuase most pc's are backward compatible with older PC formats..so it's kinda not fair to throw PC games in the mix IMO....when MS drops the sofware support for Xbone it will have another console out on the market and will most likely support it's Xbox live connectivity further past the consoles life span..like they did with the first Xbox and like they are going to do with Xbox 360..when the Xbox 2 comes out Xbone will still have servers and features...even if limited to some time after the console has ceased prodution and shipping...but proposing that it has to last 15 to 20 years...IMO to much of a strecth...


You must be young.Why do Consoles get obsolete ? Because the SNES had cartridges ?

People LOVE retro gaming once they get older because it reminds them of the good old times. My friends often rather play SNES Football than the newest Fifa. You are severly underestimating that retro appeal. People just like to play old systems on old CRT TVS. Why do SNES games cost that much nowadays ? Because they are in high demand.

Whats with the kids that grow up with the Xbox one as their primary consoles and want to replay some of the old classics in 40 years ? I am glad this stuff didnt exist in the 90s or else I could now throw away my old Systems.

 

And hoping that MS releases a DRM FREE patch after 20 years is a little optimistic. Because it looks like the game developers know that they can make money through their old classics. I can imagine they will find ways to tie your games to a payed Gold Service in the long run.



It's all over for Microsoft's Xbox 3. It will certainly crash and burn. Unless they bail it out with their direct power. I highly doubt Reality Mechanics will allow that yet again.



Bonafide732 said:
disolitude said:
Sensei said:
 

Are you for real? NO, you CANNOT access your "Xbone gaming collection anywhere and anytime" because you MUST BE FUCKING CONNECTED to the Internet.

So you go to an island, to a farm, somewhere not connected, you cannot play at all.

Seriously, I see from your history here that you like MS, but I don't think it's reasonable to defend this kind of bullshit against us all.

You will see me attacking Sony the day they do the same bullshit to us. Write that down.

If I'm at an island or a farm I'll go enjoy the sun or play some soccer...Its more fun than videogames.

Gaming priority for me falls between "there is no hockey on tv" and reruns of Seinfeld.


what about the people who live on farms? youre saying they cant enjoy gaming? youre saying they should be doing something else.. i know youre joking but come on thats crazy to me

Gaming isn't socialism or communism where it must work for all or it doesn't work for anyone.

I don't live on a farm and if a person on a farm is unable the connect to the internet, this console isn't for them. If I was that person I would probably say...Oh well, Xbox one lost my money I would definetly not buy it.  Microsoft made a conscious to make the console work in this manner and they are not trying to fool anyone if they are clearly explaining how it works.

I don't buy for one second that a single person on this forum blasting Xbox One today lives on a farm without internet though.

And yes I was joking before btw :)



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Cirio said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:


Niche Install bases..Your argument is invalid

Niche install bases? So just because they're smaller in number, it's okay to prevent them from playing video games?

Edit: I guess the millions of 360 owners who don't have an internet connection are also a "niche" userbase to you...

my first post in this thread points that out...



 



arcane_chaos said:
guys..just leave disolitude alone; your obviously aren't going to change his opinions...it's like the unstoppable force meeets the immovable object...neither of you guys are going to change eachothers opinion, just let it rest

Other then that one individual blindly calling me a fanboy, I find that we are mostly having a civilized discussion...

If anyone else knows what that is (civilized discussion) and wants to discuss Xbox one I don't see why theyneed to leave me alone



So why are people so mad at this cuz it kind of sounds like sony.
The only difference is they dont require a check in and tbey dont have preferred retailers



Zizzla_Rachet said:
Cirio said:
Zizzla_Rachet said:


Niche Install bases..Your argument is invalid

Niche install bases? So just because they're smaller in number, it's okay to prevent them from playing video games?

Edit: I guess the millions of 360 owners who don't have an internet connection are also a "niche" userbase to you...

my first post in this thread points that out...

Your post says nothing about why it is acceptable to prevent people who lack internet the option to play video games on the console.



Azerth said:
So why are people so mad at this cuz it kind of sounds like sony.
The only difference is they dont require a check in and tbey dont have preferred retailers


People are mad because it requires a checkin and they have to use licensed retailers.