Anyone who thinks that there wont be multiple Live accounts on a single console also needs to go back to common sense and logic university. My 360 has 4 accounts. The 360 downstairs has 5 accounts. You can add Live accounts on other platforms, too. Live isnt exclusive to Xbox 360.

There will be more than or close to 30 Million 360 consoles out there that arent on the Internet. That dont have Live.

They are alienating a large portion of the 360 userbase here. You cant argue against that no matter how much you want to.

On another note, someone made an advert -

People need to know.

Only if you're both okay with Microsoft watching and listening via Kinect.

Sony already said no DRM. Its just that everyone is so freaked out by MS that they aren't willing to listen.

That will spread pretty fast.

Wow. Xbox will be in last place this gen. Especially worldwide.

I am not sure if your being serious or not...but in the off chance you are serious, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Their first party games will most likely draw you in if your a fan, even with the DRM stuff.

For me personally I'm waiting on what there JRPG stuff will be like before I commit to anything. I bought a 360 for Lost Odyssey and I would pick up an X1 for LO2 in a heartbeat.  

So It turned out just as rumors predicted.

I can only sell a game to a retailer that is MS approved. MS wont put a fee on it but it would be pointless if the publishers wouldn't want a fee from the retailers for selling a used game. Can see EA just taxing 50 bucks fees and kill the used games sales completly. Nothing is stopping them.

And in the off chance I am allowed to sell my game to a licensed retailer after 3 months it still means I get less since the retailer has to pay the publisher a cut.

Also no private sales. Except to a person 30 days on my friendslist. Which then is stuck with the game and this is only if the Publishers allow it because its blocked by default so they have to explicitly allow it. Loaning Renting wont work at launch

Every 24 hours I need to be connected or I can't play games. But I can still watch Live TV (If I have a seperate Cable Box obviously) or play Blurays.

If a family member logs onto another Xbox they can use my games unless I play them. But they need to be checked online every hour.

I wonder if the 10 Family members have to be verified through an ID Card. Or if you can just say hey User 2424nnjhdjjia is my brother. I doubt MS wouldn't be controlling in that point.

Yet I can theoretically loan my games right now to 100000 People. So its not a plus its still a bad thing. The only good thing is I dont have to give my family the physical (utterly worthless) discs. But they have to pretty much download 10-20-50gb games whenever they use another Xbox. Must be nice to not have a data cap. Its probably way faster to install if I just give them the discs anyway.  And I really really doubt that you can play the same game at the same time, with the MS Servers checking up on your family every hour. Its probably going to kick them out of the game once I start to play it on my system. Thats just natural I cant do that right now either, but it would be the only possible thing that would be good about all of this.

I cant think of any scenario that makes the new Xbox Policies better in any way then the old one its just cutting down on every right we have now.Oh right Installing games instead of using the disc but with a limited harddrive this is not such an appealling prospect.

I can game share on PSN and I can download the game from any PS3 with my account too, not just family members.How is that 10 Family Members thing any different ?

Well atleast I can pause the Kinect if I choose to do so. So they most likely are not data mining at any given moment if I pause it... right ?

All in all its not worse. Its just as horrible as I expected. If Sony gets similary brilliant ideas its PC+Nintendo for me. Steam is not much better in regards to DRM but atleast I can mod games have free online and better graphics. Also a Titan has 4 times the raw processing power of a xbox one.

If Sony gets it right, which I am not sure anymore, after seeing MS showing its ugly face and baiting the consumers for 2 gens. It would be interesting to see the market react to that. Maybe nobody cares, if they get worse graphics and pay the same or higher price and have to deal with always online/paying for Multiplayer online and MS/EA special brand of DRM.

lol nice ok... I laughed

i heard the rumour is two family members at the same time (not sure if that means you and two others or two with you included) which would be still fine. would still mean that if some people want a game and play it together, only half of them have to buy it (or 1/3) and if they don't want to play it at exactly the same moment, it's ok if only one will buy it.

and yes, i also wonder how they want to do that with the family members. if you could put some friends in this list and not only real family members, this could be something really good for a group of a few big friends. if it's only for family members it is obviously not so good anymore

But it is so inconvenient to do that. Plus, I have a limited data plan so this isn't a great solution. And, just switching on the 4G on my phone eats up 10% of the battery in 15min. I just don't support a console that needs to be online once a day. The Xbox One will just have to be a console I will buy in 5 years to play Halo 5 and 6 but that's it.