Yah because the patent I'm talking about (as an exemple of why Sony is no different than any other companies out there) is Sony's patent.

Thanks haha. It's annoying when people take sides with anything. 

I agree with you, it is inevitable that DRM of some form will probably come to next gen. And if that's successful then i don't see any reason why PS5 and Next Xbox won't just implement an even stricter form of DRM. Connecting 24 hours isn't a big deal. But what worries me is the emphasis on even single player games using the cloud (a server) all the time. Obviously not all info has been revealed so i can't really say much on this topic only that if single player games did require an always online connection then it'd be really really dissapointing. Much worse than steam which has an offline mode at least. 

I do agree that publishers need to increase their income somehow. But a forced and controlled used game market/tax isn;t the right way. I've heard the argument against gamestop before and to be honest i fail to see what the problem is. All they're doing is what any other business does. Buy a product and sell it on at a profit. I'm not sure if you're from the UK or not but we have a store chain here called CEX, they buy used cameras and electornics and sell them on for a profit. It's how a business works. So there is nothing wrong with the way gamestop operates. I agree it takes money away from the publishers but gamestop are running a perfectly legitimate business buying and selling used goods. A publisher has the option to do the same by opening their own trade in system or whatever. So the gamestop taking money from nothing argument is flawed as well here. 

Really?  I missed that.  Do you have a link?  Thanks.

Mm

I assume that you're an MS guy and that you are pretty much shaking an angry fist at Sony fans. You pretty much admitted it in your OP.

You're hoping that Sony does all that MS is doing because you want them to suffer aswell

Its waaaaaaaaay too obvious

Edit: @Mods im just saying so relax

Eh, i think not,

-Mr Khan

http://gamepolitics.com/2013/02/21/sony-ps4-will-not-block-used-games#.UbEHC_mfhRk

Read down on the page a little.

This.

Also, people seem to not mentiont he fact that Sony has DRM on the games they publish. They don't support used games at all.

You know, if Sony comes up with some DRM Bullshit, it doesn't make Microsoft look beeter in any way. It just makes Sony look worse. Sim City on PC has even worse DRM than Xbox One. But still, that doesn't make the Xbox One better. Just because there is something that is just as bad or worse doesn't mean it's ok all of a sudden.

No matter who does it, it sucks big time. And I don't care who started it. So you know what? Cheers to Nintendo until sony denies or confirms anything. No crappy DRM bullshit on Wii U. Still no Xbox One for me.

Well said.

I don't understand this brand loyalty people have to companies that screw them over.

Microsoft and Sony should be begging us for our hard earned money, not have people defending them through some sense of loyalty to a brand.

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I remember those patents too. That only means Sony was contemplating something like that years ago. But they have stated they wouldn't do it, so they won't. It would be stupid to lose that extra bit of edge over Microsoft.

? Explain.