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Jabbamk1 on 06 June 2013
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Imaginedvl said:
Jabbamk1 said:


To be honest mate your arguing for no reason. You're just reacting to the internet. All the internet does is complain about one thing or another. 

And neither Sony or Microsoft should be branded as evil. Come on man, don't turn yourself into a console loyalist who just defends one console as well. That makes you no better than the people accusing microsoft. 

At the end of the day we just need to wait until both MS and Sony clear up this mess. And until then we as consumers need to show both companies that gamers like ourselves will not accept the used game blocking/always online from either company. Sure it might not affect you, doesn't affect me either. But it's still an anti consumer policy and it should be got rid of from both consoles. 

The twitter campaign by GAF was a good way to air these complaints from gamers. And a lot of gaming journalists and key industry people have picked up on the view of the general public. The fact is that DRM should not be on consoles. So rather than arguing about which is the better console and how Sony could do the same thing, lets try and make a difference so neither console has it, because in the end that will benefit gamers most. 

You are right; this is a reaction to the internet; won't deny it. At the same time; it was really annoying in the past few weeks to have all Sony loyalist ruining a lot of good thread because of their "reactions". That's why I want to know what they are thinking of this? (And you response is very good by the way; better than those just coming in and saying unintelligent comments or attacking me for my OP).

Call me pessimistic but I do not believe we can avoid that... The DRM I mean.
And honestly; having to connect once per 24 hours is really nothing compared to actual DRM in place for digital or even Steam like distributions; I do not see this as a big deal.

Also; having Microsoft (or Sony) + the publisher/developer to receive some money out of a used game sale is way better than having GameStop ridiculously making money out of nothing :)

 

Thanks haha. It's annoying when people take sides with anything. 

I agree with you, it is inevitable that DRM of some form will probably come to next gen. And if that's successful then i don't see any reason why PS5 and Next Xbox won't just implement an even stricter form of DRM. Connecting 24 hours isn't a big deal. But what worries me is the emphasis on even single player games using the cloud (a server) all the time. Obviously not all info has been revealed so i can't really say much on this topic only that if single player games did require an always online connection then it'd be really really dissapointing. Much worse than steam which has an offline mode at least. 

I do agree that publishers need to increase their income somehow. But a forced and controlled used game market/tax isn;t the right way. I've heard the argument against gamestop before and to be honest i fail to see what the problem is. All they're doing is what any other business does. Buy a product and sell it on at a profit. I'm not sure if you're from the UK or not but we have a store chain here called CEX, they buy used cameras and electornics and sell them on for a profit. It's how a business works. So there is nothing wrong with the way gamestop operates. I agree it takes money away from the publishers but gamestop are running a perfectly legitimate business buying and selling used goods. A publisher has the option to do the same by opening their own trade in system or whatever. So the gamestop taking money from nothing argument is flawed as well here.