I couldn't have sworn Halo had to do something with it.

Check the sales from Halo...having 70 M+ console owners did very little but tack on a couple million more sales opposed to 25 M selling console. The highest Halo has sold on the 360 was 11 million. Kinect Sports did more for sales than Halo did, which is probably why MS is so enamored with it now.

Kinect Sports isn't multiplat though

Yoshida confirmed there is no DRM at all in the PS4 if theres any DRM at all it will be third party inflicted.

Based on everything that's happening on the internet, I'm sure PS4 already won the generation. But Vita also had already won it on the internet before and we know what happened after it's release in real life. I believe we should wait till every new console is released before making threads like this.

Yeah, but that explains 100% why MS is obsessed with Kinect still to this day and it just might hurt them a bit. Halo is a great game but on its own it doesnt shift consoles any different than the original Xbox did. Doesn't need to be a multiplat, lol. I am thankful that Ryse will be a full console release though rather than a Kinect title. MS couldnt prove they could make a full game for us outside of the casuals. Casuals most of the time dont translate from one console to the other so hopefully MS has a good Kinect showing because the multiplats will be better will have a slight edge on the PS4 as it seems.

or the wii u for that matter

If they had all bought the same system that would have worked. Instead it is a battle of what the people I went to school with play on, what the people I work with play on, and what console my family plays on. I had all three systems, so I got to play with all of them. It was just some years I was playing multis on PS3 and others on 360. 

On the exclusive side I really wanted some friends to try games, but they did not have the system. Some came over and played, but others have families and it would be irrisponsible to spend 10 - 15 hours playing a video game at someone elses house.

These things were not an issue when everyone I know had a PS2.

As locked as anything can be.

It has 50% marketshare written all over it.

I think Sony has a lot of momentum but will probably end up shooting themselves in the foot at first.. I think you all forgot why the PS3 started out slow.. basically price... Gamers by the time these systems launch will have plenty of choice as far as games go.. Nintendo will be showing off some great stuff in the coming weeks.. from E3 and Nintendo Direct for Wii U... Sony will have a lot of games on display... and Microsoft... well.. let's be honest.. they will sell okay because they still have a hardcore following so no matter how they screw up.. they will do okay.. but yeah.. they end up in third.. next generation...