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sales2099 said:

Just syou haters trying to brign up those old feelings brought on by unreliability.

Now way is MS repeating that mistake, but that won't stop some haters from trying to do what they can.


First you should support the claim its just haters... which you cant. Then you should assume all companies wont repeat the same mistakes... which you dont. And finally you should look in the mirror... which you wont



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Max King of the Wild said:
sales2099 said:

Just syou haters trying to brign up those old feelings brought on by unreliability.

Now way is MS repeating that mistake, but that won't stop some haters from trying to do what they can.


First you should support the claim its just haters... which you cant. Then you should assume all companies wont repeat the same mistakes... which you dont. And finally you should look in the mirror... which you wont

good thing this is just a rumor and people are allowed to say their unsubstantiated opinion based on a unsubstantiated claim.



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SonyHeavyMetal92 said:
sales2099 said:

Just some haters trying to brign up those old feelings brought on by unreliability.

Now way is MS repeating that mistake, but that won't stop some haters from trying to do what they can.

if microsoft failed, what would you say then? i doubt they will fail do to so much money but still pretend they do fail with the xbone... what is your reaction and words going to conclude into?

If Sony fans can say Sony learned from their early mistakes this gen, then I have the right to say the same. that is all. I call propaganda until proven wrong.



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sales2099 said:
SonyHeavyMetal92 said:
sales2099 said:
 

Just some haters trying to brign up those old feelings brought on by unreliability.

Now way is MS repeating that mistake, but that won't stop some haters from trying to do what they can.

if microsoft failed, what would you say then? i doubt they will fail do to so much money but still pretend they do fail with the xbone... what is your reaction and words going to conclude into?

If Sony fans can say Sony learned from their early mistakes this gen, then I have the right to say the same. that is all. I call propaganda until proven wrong.


you did not answer my question... wow and this is from some one that says sony fans are always deflecting :P



Porcupine_I said:
kitler53 said:
wouldn't low yield just mean low shipment numbers at launch until it is figured out?

probably, but if you want high shipment numbers at launch and a downgrade of the clockspeed can fix the problems of the faulty chips, you could also go down that route.

problem is, if you do that you can't fix it later.


i was going to rebuttle with that but you beat me too it.  downclocking now would really fuck up all the games currently in developement and limit future potential (without cloud assist which if I were MS I wouldn't rely on after the always online fallout).

 

also, it's just a little air-born..



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Lafiel said:
kitler53 said:
wouldn't low yield just mean low shipment numbers at launch until it is figured out?

yes, but it also means high manufacturing costs per chip


i've been told MS have mountains of money to ensure that the xbone is succesful.  wouldn't taking a high cost per chip for a couple of months until you can get better yields be worth it?  its not like this kind of issue should take years to figure out.  faced with missing this holiday (giving ps4 a head start), down specing the system (risking delays to launch games that would need to be modified for the change in specs), or taking a short term financial hit,..  i'd take the hit and hide it in MS's billion+ quarterly profits.



SonyHeavyMetal92 said:
sales2099 said:

If Sony fans can say Sony learned from their early mistakes this gen, then I have the right to say the same. that is all. I call propaganda until proven wrong.


you did not answer my question... wow and this is from some one that says sony fans are always deflecting :P

I don't want to answer your question, because its a hypothetical based on a hypothetical rumor. Kinda silly.

Save your "wow"s for when something truly wow worthy actually happens ;)



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walsufnir said:
Otakumegane said:
WOAH.

I go to sleep and this thread exploded. Has anyone been banned yet?


No but I still have to say you should say "thank you" when people explain technical stuff to you.


thanks! i know i didn't ask for the explination but i did enjoy reading your post.  :P



Why did they go with Esram instead of Edram if this was going to cause this much trouble?



A NeoGAF thread starting bad rumors about Microsoft... Esp.with all the shit they said the past week :)
I'm genuinely surprised.