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xwan said:
Player2 said:
xwan said:
Barozi said:
xwan said:
I have got to disagree with that, in terms of Console gaming, the amount of exclusive contents and new IP sony is pushing far exceed what Nintendo has done. Nintendo's agenda was pushing Wii Shovelware with occassional Mario and Zelda IP. If Nintendo doesn't have their handheld, they would be pushing the same game for the past 20 years with minimal innovation.

Nintendo didn't push shovelware for the Wii. Third parties did because they saw the quick money.


What was that game? WarioWare ???

Did you played it?

Yes i did...at my friend's BBQ passing the controller around, it was fun for 30 minutes..then it was the same repeated task -_-


Well its not that kind of game for everyone but I wouldn't consider it shovelware since it has a certain game quality. Shovelware are unoptimized, not finished. buggy and laggy videogames developed to make fast money! 



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hivycox said:
UltimateUnknown said:

While their exclusives are great, what really shines for me are Sony's hardware and services. It would indeed be a dreadful day for gaming if Sony quit making hardware.

PS3 was a great piece of tech, as was PS2 and PS1. PSN was a great service which let you play MP without having to pay money and gave a unified game experience with your friends. PS Plus was off the hook in terms of the value it game consumers. It has to be one of the most amazing services I have ever used in gaming. On top of all this they also have quality exclusives.

If Sony did exit gaming, having to play exclusively on Nintendo's underpowered console or M$'s excessively manipulative money-grubbing console would kill my gaming heart. I hope Sony lives. Long live Sony.

There goes your credibility! If you have a gaming heart you would go where the good games are! You wouldn't care about tech. You would care about how fun and amazing the games are.

From my personal experience, good games come with good hardware. And Sony's home console hardware ALWAYS have good games, which is why I like Sony's hardware in the first place. Because they give good games. LOTS of them. First AND 3rd party.

While I do love Nintendo's 1st party the most, I would give up their home consoles anyday for Sony's because Sony's hardware allows for 3rd parties to bring about the amazing games they envision. The day Nintendo's hardware does that, I'd go exclusively Nintendo. But I don't think that day will ever come.



 

UltimateUnknown said:
hivycox said:
UltimateUnknown said:

While their exclusives are great, what really shines for me are Sony's hardware and services. It would indeed be a dreadful day for gaming if Sony quit making hardware.

PS3 was a great piece of tech, as was PS2 and PS1. PSN was a great service which let you play MP without having to pay money and gave a unified game experience with your friends. PS Plus was off the hook in terms of the value it game consumers. It has to be one of the most amazing services I have ever used in gaming. On top of all this they also have quality exclusives.

If Sony did exit gaming, having to play exclusively on Nintendo's underpowered console or M$'s excessively manipulative money-grubbing console would kill my gaming heart. I hope Sony lives. Long live Sony.

There goes your credibility! If you have a gaming heart you would go where the good games are! You wouldn't care about tech. You would care about how fun and amazing the games are.

From my personal experience, good games come with good hardware. And Sony's home console hardware ALWAYS have good games, which is why I like Sony's hardware in the first place. Because they give good games. LOTS of them. First AND 3rd party.

While I do love Nintendo's 1st party the most, I would give up their home consoles anyday for Sony's because Sony's hardware allows for 3rd parties to bring about the amazing games they envision. The day Nintendo's hardware does that, I'd go exclusively Nintendo. But I don't think that day will ever come.


Well from MY personal experience better hardware equals worse games! Many Nintendo titles were done on consoles without cutting edge hardware. Look at the Wii! One of the best games (Mario Galaxy) were made on this console and still outshines MANY Playstation 3 games.

good hardware /= good games



Barozi said:
NYCrysis said:
Barozi said:
Just because a company decides to let go of its gaming segment doesn't mean that suddenly the game developers will turn into architects, professional singers or cleaning ladies.

They will just form new studios, probably with the majority of the original team and then start to make games again.
Independant or not. If their games are good enough they're going to get all the money they want to make a game.

In case of Insomniac, they chose to make an FPS, whether it was Overstrike or Fuse, I don't think it would've mattered much in terms of sales. Now even if they go bankrupt, they will either join other devs and make them better or found a new development company.


Who will fund them? It's not all easy going if your studio shuts down or your parent company goes bankrupt. Who will fund the next Naughty Dog Game or the next Media molecule game? If it weren't for Sony there wouldn't even be little big planet and future MM projects. Think about it hard. I have and I am putting my full gaming fund into sony. Also Sony said in the next 2 years they are expecting a 2% profit on about 10billion in revenue on playstation down from 8% (same revenue) that they forcasted (probably to fund more investments though).

No I don't need to because it's a stupid thought.
You really think no one would buy Naughty Dog, Media Molecule or Sony Santa Monica ?

Also even if no one buys them it wouldn't be a problem. Quite a few developers are independent. How do you think they get funded ? They go to publishers, show them their ideas and sign a contract when the publisher likes what the developer does.
Apparently you don't have any faith in these studios or else you would know that no publisher would turn down ideas from these studios.

I don't have faith in publishers other then Ubisoft or take 2. Imagine ea, acti, capcom, or square getting their hands on them I would expect yearly rehashes COD like MP and SALEZ :(



hivycox said:
UltimateUnknown said:
hivycox said:
UltimateUnknown said:

While their exclusives are great, what really shines for me are Sony's hardware and services. It would indeed be a dreadful day for gaming if Sony quit making hardware.

PS3 was a great piece of tech, as was PS2 and PS1. PSN was a great service which let you play MP without having to pay money and gave a unified game experience with your friends. PS Plus was off the hook in terms of the value it game consumers. It has to be one of the most amazing services I have ever used in gaming. On top of all this they also have quality exclusives.

If Sony did exit gaming, having to play exclusively on Nintendo's underpowered console or M$'s excessively manipulative money-grubbing console would kill my gaming heart. I hope Sony lives. Long live Sony.

There goes your credibility! If you have a gaming heart you would go where the good games are! You wouldn't care about tech. You would care about how fun and amazing the games are.

From my personal experience, good games come with good hardware. And Sony's home console hardware ALWAYS have good games, which is why I like Sony's hardware in the first place. Because they give good games. LOTS of them. First AND 3rd party.

While I do love Nintendo's 1st party the most, I would give up their home consoles anyday for Sony's because Sony's hardware allows for 3rd parties to bring about the amazing games they envision. The day Nintendo's hardware does that, I'd go exclusively Nintendo. But I don't think that day will ever come.


Well from MY personal experience better hardware equals worse games! Many Nintendo titles were done on consoles without cutting edge hardware. Look at the Wii! One of the best games (Mario Galaxy) were made on this console and still outshines MANY Playstation 3 games.

good hardware /= good games


I will take Uncharted 2 (and possible upcoming TLOU seeing all the raging scores) over any mario game anyday.



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I hope they don't make money. They deserve to make money until they stop being asshats trying to make you buy proprietary items for their products. I should be able to use the standard SD card on any of their cameras for example.



hivycox said:
UltimateUnknown said:
hivycox said:
UltimateUnknown said:

While their exclusives are great, what really shines for me are Sony's hardware and services. It would indeed be a dreadful day for gaming if Sony quit making hardware.

PS3 was a great piece of tech, as was PS2 and PS1. PSN was a great service which let you play MP without having to pay money and gave a unified game experience with your friends. PS Plus was off the hook in terms of the value it game consumers. It has to be one of the most amazing services I have ever used in gaming. On top of all this they also have quality exclusives.

If Sony did exit gaming, having to play exclusively on Nintendo's underpowered console or M$'s excessively manipulative money-grubbing console would kill my gaming heart. I hope Sony lives. Long live Sony.

There goes your credibility! If you have a gaming heart you would go where the good games are! You wouldn't care about tech. You would care about how fun and amazing the games are.

From my personal experience, good games come with good hardware. And Sony's home console hardware ALWAYS have good games, which is why I like Sony's hardware in the first place. Because they give good games. LOTS of them. First AND 3rd party.

While I do love Nintendo's 1st party the most, I would give up their home consoles anyday for Sony's because Sony's hardware allows for 3rd parties to bring about the amazing games they envision. The day Nintendo's hardware does that, I'd go exclusively Nintendo. But I don't think that day will ever come.


Well from MY personal experience better hardware equals worse games! Many Nintendo titles were done on consoles without cutting edge hardware. Look at the Wii! One of the best games (Mario Galaxy) were made on this console and still outshines MANY Playstation 3 games.

good hardware /= good games

I'm not madly in love with most Nintendo home console games (handhelds are a differnent story-Pokemon/The Word Ends With You). I tried Super Mario Galaxy 2, Zelda TP, Kirby's Epic Yarn, DK CR but didn't like them very much. The Wii was fun, but the 1st party games on it didn't make me go WOW. My favourite Wii game was Dragonball Z BT3, but that was also available on PS2 and the exclusive online mode on the Wii was garbage, which was the reason to play on Wii. Nintendo home console games haven't really appealed to me since the original NES/SNES days. I will give them props for making me a gamer with Super Mario Bros and giving me my favourite franchise of all time-Pokemon, but most Nintendo games just don't appeal to me anymore, and neither do they have the 3rd party support to warrant thier console a buy.

The 1st and 3rd party games available on PS3 appeal to me far more. It is simply a case of better hardware (plus better services)=better software for me personally with PS3.



 

xwan said:
disolitude said:
bonkers555 said:
disolitude said:
This thread is quite ridiculous...but ill bite.

Sony's time to shine was when the industry needed a new physical medium and complex hardware ever new gen. Since digital distribution is the way to go and DVD/Blurays are no longer needed and x86 is the hardware of choice, I begin to wonder why Sony is still around on the console side.

If PS4 doesn't really take off, Sony can probably make more money being a publisher if they keep making these great games...which is what I actually see happening down the road. Google and Apple will bully someone out of the gaming industry in the next 10 years.

Don't forget Samsung, which show interest in the Video Games market for a while now.

Right...

Honestly, the same way Sony got in to the industry is the way someone like Samsung could get in. (money, hype, cross brand promotions). And who is to say that Samsung won't buy as awesome studios and developers as Sony did? 

I don't see why anyone would shed a tear over Sony or Microsoft in this industry. Any huge corporation can take their place...

Sony has a proven track record of staying game-focus, even if they used their console to push DVD and BluRay. Samsung on the other hand has proven nothing yet, because they haven't even made a single game. I am afraid if Samsung gets into gaming, you will just get a shit-ton of cell phone games on your console. Why would you want to replace a proven, well rounded World Wide Studio with an unproven Samsung is totally weird; eventhough that's how the PS1 got started, the landscape has changed so much, the investment to make a AAA is much higher, the risk is higher and the return for profit has not really change significantly.

And to the other guy "Consumer" will fund it? Where do they get start up funds, making a game takes 3-4 years, you can't do all that with crowd sourcing, you need a giant publisher or platform holder to dishout money for AAA, consumer isn't funding shit until you roll in the green with your game going 'gold'.


I enjoy many of these "cell phone" games as much as most console games, including Sonys. Game is fun no matter what platform is on...

This thread has a very misguided faulty idea behind it. You're illustrating and example of someone that thinks their beliefs and taste in gaming matter most and are the "right". Its very common around here.

 



Soonerman said:
I hope they don't make money. They deserve to make money until they stop being asshats trying to make you buy proprietary items for their products. I should be able to use the standard SD card on any of their cameras for example.


Your example is invalid as all of sony's cameras now support the standard sd card, and besides the vita they don't do propriety anymore. Check out their phones all use industry standards. So you also think that MS and Apple shouldn't make money too cause of their propriety products like the xbox hdd's or apple's adapters and $100 16-32-64 memory upgrades or is this a one way streak?



Hold on, since when did Nintendo become the white-knight gaming savior that only focuses on games? Are we suddenly forgetting the Wii Netflix/Hulu push or TVii? Just because Sony has other properties doesn't mean they aren't contributing enormously to the gaming industry (Journey, Heavy Rain, Shadow of the Colossus, etc.) I wish the best of the luck to both Nintendo AND Sony.



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