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Barozi on 04 June 2013
Deyon said:
maverick40 said:

I review games for a gaming website and we have never received a cent from any publishers. I have the last of us media kit sitting at home waiting to be reviewed, I never received a cent from Sony. This childish notion is bullshit and needs to stop.

Your site is not as big as IGN or Gamespot. You can't expect publishers to pay off every reviewer. Once your site have hundreds of thousands of followers, publishers will come for you.

Jeff Gerstmann (A well known reviewer) got fired from Gamespot after he gave Kane & Lynch: Dead Men (A shitty game) a bad review, because Eidos Interactive payed Gamespot to give the game a good score.

Is this notion bullshit now?

It is because people here seem to either think that other companies pay reviewers to score certain games low or that when no one pays for reviews it's automatically getting a bad score.

What people fail to understand is that a game like Remember Me is completely irrelevant to the review sites. Review sites only profit from hype and that hype comes from AAA games that are of AAA quality or simply popular franchises (and might get a little bit higher score to attract more views) or trolls who rate AAA games low because they want the hits (Jim Sterling, Quarter To Three).
Remember Me is to review sites about as important as NHL13 or some iOS game.

IGN gave it 5.9, the average for the version with the most reviews is 68. Wow big difference, certainly has to be bought or in this case not bought. On the other hand, no one is complaining about the 80+ scores...

About Kane & Lynch. I'm pretty sure it scored lower than Remember Me and it had the advantage of being an early game of the PS360Wii gen. With much more competition it would've had a much harder time if it was reviewed right now.
They certainly didn't pay enough reviewers to lift K&L to even AA levels.



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Dgc1808 on 04 June 2013
PullusPardus said:
AndrewWK said:
PullusPardus said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
and the other sites that rated this low? are all site getting paid too?


Yes, hence why I said "Gaming journalism"  , its a good business giving that most gamers nowadays just watch reviews and wait for the next call of duty to release.


You got any proof for your competent claims?

You really think journalists never get paid?

what about Mass Effect 3 ? when it came out, it was game of the years / generation whatever, then after people played it , was a huge backlash 


That's a terrible example. MS3 received backlash for 2 reasons. A weak ending and decisions from previous games were less significant compared to MS2. Outside of those 2 complaints almost everyone you ask will tell you it was a superb game. 



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maverick40 on 04 June 2013
darkknightkryta said:
maverick40 said:
 

Your post has zero proof. Here is what I found: 

The issue, Gerstmann claimed in a streaming interview, was that a new management team inexperienced in dealing with editorial groups, had come to power at Gamespot and overreacted to what Gerstmann describes as "publisher push-back." According to his recollection, Eidos threatened to pull ad revenue from Gamespot as a result of his review, and though this kind of thing is relatively common in games journalism, the nascent management team panicked and decided that Gerstmann was unreliable. "They felt they couldn't trust me in the role," Gerstmann said.

source

So nothing about the reviewer receiving money. It was about ad revenue for the site as a whole. I rest my case.

That IS money.  Plus a threat to the outlet to get a review score changed.

Listen, the games industry has been around for over 20 years and how come we have NEVER heard 1st hand of any journalist being paid by publishers to review a game over that period?  



the2real4mafol on 04 June 2013

maybe it was just not as good as assassin's creed and uncharted?



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AndrewWK on 04 June 2013
the2real4mafol said:
maybe it was just not as good as assassin's creed and uncharted?


Thats impossible everybody can make games like those apparently.



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swii26 on 04 June 2013
AndrewWK said:
No he gave it 5.9 because the combat doesn´t feal really good and the Gameplay aspect of this "game" is the weakest part. You should read the whole review. He makes valid points. And you are in no position to judge because you have not yet played the game.


I would agree with the combat... Just watching gameplay it looked repetitive and it seemed like there was more evading than attacking. 

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darkknightkryta on 04 June 2013
maverick40 said:
darkknightkryta said:
maverick40 said:
 

Your post has zero proof. Here is what I found: 

The issue, Gerstmann claimed in a streaming interview, was that a new management team inexperienced in dealing with editorial groups, had come to power at Gamespot and overreacted to what Gerstmann describes as "publisher push-back." According to his recollection, Eidos threatened to pull ad revenue from Gamespot as a result of his review, and though this kind of thing is relatively common in games journalism, the nascent management team panicked and decided that Gerstmann was unreliable. "They felt they couldn't trust me in the role," Gerstmann said.

source

So nothing about the reviewer receiving money. It was about ad revenue for the site as a whole. I rest my case.

That IS money.  Plus a threat to the outlet to get a review score changed.

Listen, the games industry has been around for over 20 years and how come we have NEVER heard 1st hand of any journalist being paid by publishers to review a game over that period?  

We just gave you an example of a cover up.  Plus how many ex journalists have we heard from in general?



darkknightkryta on 04 June 2013

I think this is a good read: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/10/26/all-the-pretty-doritos-how-video-game-journalism-went-off-the-rails/