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platformmaster918 on 02 June 2013
michael_stutzer said:
RazorDragon said:

Now I can see that "$349" price tag being true. If it was bundled, I wouldn't expect less than $450.

IF the cost of a camera was 100$, then PS4 would cost 10000$ to make. Fortunately it is not.

I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up driving the cost up that much.  2 microphones and 2 cameras plus the cord and the packaging for the camera could make the addition worth $100 (remember these aren't bad cameras either they're HD and 60fps).




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zumnupy10 on 02 June 2013
ViktorBKK said:
That's great news. I wouldn't want to eat up the cost of the camera. Whoever wants to play Just Dance 5, let them buy it separately.

My exact same thoughts.



KBG29 on 02 June 2013
Machiavellian said:
Carl2291 said:
Machiavellian said:

If you are using the PS2 and 3 as an example then what you just stated is that there will be no support.  Why buy the bundle for the move if it fractures the gaming landscape on the PS4. Sometimes choice is not a good thing if you want support for a device.  If Sony isn't making any real effort to support their device why would 3rd party devs.


There may be minimal support, but I really dont think Sony care that much as long as there is support and people buy it.

I mean, Eye Toy was a success. PS Eye and PS Move are a success. While Eye Toy didnt really have support, the support for PS Move and PS Eye hasnt been nearly as bad.

Where PS4 Eye will be different to Eye Toy and PS Eye, is that it will be available from launch (And will probably have an SKU at launch too). While Eye Toy and PS Eye were released sometime into the platforms life and managed to do 10 Million units, PS4 Eye will be there from the start and will likely push over 20 Million units, providing PS4 has lifetime numbers anything like every other PS home console.

kowenicki said:


Worked well? Worked well in making the peripheral a failure you mean? 

Eye Toy sold over 10 Million units.

PS Move sold over 15 Million units too, which requires PS Eye... And the device has what, 120 games supported?

Can you explain how Eye Toy, PS Eye and Move have been failures?


They are failures because you have out of hundreds of games you have about 10 that support the move (I believe I am being generous).  I do not even see anything about the move from Sony anymore just like you did not see anything about the Eye Toy after a very brief stint of sales.  The key would be why would anyone go down that route again if support will be so mininal.  You already have 2 generations that show that Sony only interested in a device for a very brief point in time then they forget about it.  If Sony isn't serious about the PSeye then why should developers be serious about developing for it or gamers in purchasing the device. 

Sony has been much better supporting PSMove, there have been a good amount of games in the last year that have supported the device. Bioshock Infinite has Move support, MLB 2013 has support, and over the Holiday season they had Sports Champions 2, Start the Party 2, Need For Speed Most Wanted, Potal 2, Wonder Book,  Epic Mickey 2, Dust 514, and a plethora of other party, excersize, and kids games.

Sony dedicated the largest portion of the E3 show last year to Wonderbook, and made sure that the PS4 camera was one of the first things revealed about the system. They still have games announced and coming out for PS3 that support move. Regardless of whether it gets packed in or not Move is being supported by Sony and 3rd party publishers. PSEYE, Move, and Nav all make money on every unit sold, so it has been a success for Sony.



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KBG29 on 02 June 2013
zorg1000 said:
So could the rumors of a $349 sku be possible?

Maybe just the console-$349

With PS Eye, headset, bigger HDD, 1 month of premium online service-$449

While Xbox One has only one sku at $399

I guess I could go for this. Give people that don't want the camera the smaller hard drive and no other accesories. If you pay for the camera you get much more than the difference in price. Thus Sony basically makes you buy the Camera option, but has the political out of saying we gave people the option, and they chose to have the unit bundled.

PS4 Basic $350

PS4 500GB HDD
DS4

PS4 Premium $400

PS4 1TB HDD
DS4
Camera
Headset
3 Month PS+



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thismeintiel on 02 June 2013
Carl2291 said:
Machiavellian said:

If you are using the PS2 and 3 as an example then what you just stated is that there will be no support.  Why buy the bundle for the move if it fractures the gaming landscape on the PS4. Sometimes choice is not a good thing if you want support for a device.  If Sony isn't making any real effort to support their device why would 3rd party devs.


There may be minimal support, but I really dont think Sony care that much as long as there is support and people buy it.

I mean, Eye Toy was a success. PS Eye and PS Move are a success. While Eye Toy didnt really have support, the support for PS Move and PS Eye hasnt been nearly as bad.

Where PS4 Eye will be different to Eye Toy and PS Eye, is that it will be available from launch (And will probably have an SKU at launch too). While Eye Toy and PS Eye were released sometime into the platforms life and managed to do 10 Million units, PS4 Eye will be there from the start and will likely push over 20 Million units, providing PS4 has lifetime numbers anything like every other PS home console.

kowenicki said:


Worked well? Worked well in making the peripheral a failure you mean? 

Eye Toy sold over 10 Million units.

PS Move sold over 15 Million units too, which requires PS Eye... And the device has what, 120 games supported?

Can you explain how Eye Toy, PS Eye and Move have been failures?

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Exactly.  And it's always better to give consumers choices.  There's no point in increasing the entry price for people who have no intention of using PS4 Eye and/or Move.  This certainly means that even with the better HW, Sony will most likely be able to match, maybe even beat, MS's entry price.

And to add to your response to kowenicki, Sony is going to end up selling quite a few more Moves, too, since it works with the PS4. 



 

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MoHasanie on 02 June 2013

Great news! I've been worried Sony would make an expensive console even more expensive by bundling it with the PS Eye.



    

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KBG29 on 02 June 2013

Just read on another board that this video is specifically about the:

DUAL SHOCK 4

Not every Dual Shock 4 will come with a PS4 Camera, sounds logical to me. Sounds like their is still a chance of a unified user base.



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zumnupy10 on 02 June 2013
KBG29 said:
zorg1000 said:
So could the rumors of a $349 sku be possible?

Maybe just the console-$349

With PS Eye, headset, bigger HDD, 1 month of premium online service-$449

While Xbox One has only one sku at $399

I guess I could go for this. Give people that don't want the camera the smaller hard drive and no other accesories. If you pay for the camera you get much more than the difference in price. Thus Sony basically makes you buy the Camera option, but has the political out of saying we gave people the option, and they chose to have the unit bundled.

PS4 Basic $350

PS4 500GB HDD
DS4

PS4 Premium $400

PS4 1TB HDD
DS4
Camera
Headset
3 Month PS+

I like your predictions.  But I'm guessing an entry price of $400



coolguy on 02 June 2013

This is great news that the ps4 won't need a camera like the x1



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ironmanDX on 03 June 2013
Munkeh111 said:
I am convinced Sony said it was packed in, so let's just wait and see before we decide anything

I thought I heard/read that somewhere too...

The DS4 clip is from February, still enough time to pack it in with the then not even built for the reveal PS4.