^You just made me sad with that post which contains the cold hard facts. Advance Wars is the future! Believe! Ahhhh! What is happening to me?
They shouldn't make it. It doesn't sell enough.
| Pineapple said: I don't think there's going to be another Advance Wars. Intelligent Systems is an incredibly talented bunch, able to do something Nintendo is struggling with at the moment: putting out medium to high quality games at a high frequency. They have roughly the sames manpower as Retro Studios, but are putting out more than four times as many games, without even counting their DSi games. Their only problem is that their core titles don't sell. The DS Advance Wars averaged less than 500k, and the DS, GC and Wii Fire Emblems sold just as bad. WarioWare saw a dramatic drop in sales toward the end of the DS, largely because the microgame genre is becoming crowded by free smartphone games. It's just not the series it was anymore. Before the 3DS, Fire Emblem had been in decline since 2003, Advance Wars in decline since it started, and Warioware was starting to die as well. Paper Mario was doing well, but that was their only series doing well. It's clear Nintendo told them to shift their course. Fire Emblem - Intelligent Systems' golden series - was to be cancelled if Fire Emblem 13 didn't sell well (source: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40303&page=1). Warioware became a download only series, and downscaled somewhat. Intelligent Systems started making a lot of DSi games, and then 2 3DS e-shop games (Crashmo and Pushmo, both highly successful). Intelligent Systems changed course somewhere around 2010. They either had to manage to make their series popular again (which they did with Fire Emblem), or abandon them in favour of making new IPs. This most likely lead to the death of their least popular major series - Advance Wars. There most likely won't be another Advance Wars. |
I wish you were full of it, but you aren't.
Why are the first games not on VC btw?
Ongoing bet with think-man: He wins if MH4 releases in any shape or form on PSV in 2013, I win if it doesn't.
| Pineapple said: I don't think there's going to be another Advance Wars. Intelligent Systems is an incredibly talented bunch, able to do something Nintendo is struggling with at the moment: putting out medium to high quality games at a high frequency. They have roughly the sames manpower as Retro Studios, but are putting out more than four times as many games, without even counting their DSi games. Their only problem is that their core titles don't sell. The DS Advance Wars averaged less than 500k, and the DS, GC and Wii Fire Emblems sold just as bad. WarioWare saw a dramatic drop in sales toward the end of the DS, largely because the microgame genre is becoming crowded by free smartphone games. It's just not the series it was anymore. Before the 3DS, Fire Emblem had been in decline since 2003, Advance Wars in decline since it started, and Warioware was starting to die as well. Paper Mario was doing well, but that was their only series doing well. It's clear Nintendo told them to shift their course. Fire Emblem - Intelligent Systems' golden series - was to be cancelled if Fire Emblem 13 didn't sell well (source: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=40303&page=1). Warioware became a download only series, and downscaled somewhat. Intelligent Systems started making a lot of DSi games, and then 2 3DS e-shop games (Crashmo and Pushmo, both highly successful). Intelligent Systems changed course somewhere around 2010. They either had to manage to make their series popular again (which they did with Fire Emblem), or abandon them in favour of making new IPs. This most likely lead to the death of their least popular major series - Advance Wars. There most likely won't be another Advance Wars. |
Damn...
But I thought Paper Mario was their best selling one derp.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)
| Otakumegane said: Damn... But I thought Paper Mario was their best selling one derp. |
Paper Mario is Intelligent Systems best selling series, yes. However, Fire Emblem is their defining series. The first game they made alone was Fire Emblem - I believe - and it's the only series they've been reliably putting out titles of.
Fire Emblem is also one of the longest running strategy series still around, older than even Civilization, and nearly none have more iterations. I don't personally know any strategy series that's older than Fire Emblem and still releasing new games, and Heroes of Might and Magic is the only one I know with more releases.
Meanwhile, Paper Mario is just one of the many Mario games, and one of the less-selling ones at that.
| Chandler said: Why are the first games not on VC btw? |
Nintendo is run by business minded cowards?
I half jest, but yeah, you can tell based off their practices with certain series that when Nintendo writes one off, they would practically bury it in cement if not for developers or fans demanding things. The more I think of it, the more I am convinced that Advance Wars: Days of Ruins was probably meant to be the swan song, they went for a vastly different setting/tone, just like they were toying with doing for FE: Awakening. The only hope is that their is a managerial shift that prompts more digitial releases so franchises like Advance Wars might get some love with less expectations.
Although how great would it be if the new game Retro is working on turns out to be a new Wii U Advance Wars game.
| Pineapple said:
There most likely won't be another Advance Wars. |
The only reason I felt like there's a chance there would be is the fact that they didn't outright say it. Of course they probably don't want to be the one who announces the bad news but we will have to know eventually.
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