brendude13 said: Ehh, I don't think attach ratio means that much. Looking at sales of big multiplatform games, I'd say they're both equal.

Ehh,I don't think it means much either

I think the massive popularity of the FPS genre and the 360 having Halo and some form of Call of Duty exclusivity are also at play here. The definition of a core gamer is still rather nebulous (it's more of a minimum value, rather than a range), and there are likely several factors at play here, making it difficult to determine whether a platform has more core gamers simply based on attach rate alone.

Well the Xbox 360 did halve the PS2's marketshare that flowed over into the next gen. Those avid buyers would move over help a lot with game sales. Whoever gets those early adopters tends to get the edge on sales. Sony and Nintendo turned a lot of casual gamers into core gamers and Microsoft every gen has been cutting the residue of those those two console create.

arcelonious said: I think the massive popularity of the FPS genre and the 360 having Halo and some form of Call of Duty exclusivity are also at play here. The definition of a core gamer is still rather nebulous (it's more of a minimum value, rather than a range), and there are likely several factors at play here, making it difficult to determine whether a platform has more core gamers simply based on attach rate alone.

One thing I really disagree with here. I would say "core" is definitely a range over a minimum, because there is no concrete point where a person converts from casual to core. It's more of a spectrum with one end being casual and one end being core. Some people can be ultra casual (barely activating their consoles), ultra core (buying a new games every week, playing 8 hours a day, whatever your definition is), but most people are in between, with varying degrees of casusl-ness/corn-ness

NobleTeam360 said: brendude13 said: Ehh, I don't think attach ratio means that much. Looking at sales of big multiplatform games, I'd say they're both equal. Ehh,I don't think it means much either

What does the wink mean?

Um, I don't think so. The 360 has sold more software because it launched a year earlier.
Also the majority of third party games sell about the same on each console.

Jay520 said: Skeeuk said: it possibly has a higher % due to launching earlier I don't see how an earlier launch means high attach ratio. Any advantage in software sales should be countered by hardware sales. Even if that were the case though, the 360's attach ratio has still been higher than the PS3's in recent years too (when the PS3 outsold the 360, but sold less software)

launching early as the 1st HD console, many gamers would have bought the "next big thing" which was the 360 i personally know many people who ony game on 360 even though they favoured ps2 previous gen, essentially microsoft gained a good chunk % of core gamers due to this

Very interesting about the higher attach rate. Doesn't that NOT include digital distribution? As I thought we weren't able to track that. So couldn't it actually be higher?

Does that include Indy and Arcade games?

It also seems surprising how we always here as PS3 has so many more exclusives. Perhaps they don't matter much as thought.

Skeeuk said: Jay520 said: Skeeuk said: it possibly has a higher % due to launching earlier I don't see how an earlier launch means high attach ratio. Any advantage in software sales should be countered by hardware sales. Even if that were the case though, the 360's attach ratio has still been higher than the PS3's in recent years too (when the PS3 outsold the 360, but sold less software) launching early as the 1st HD console, many gamers would have bought the "next big thing" which was the 360 i personally know many people who ony game on 360 even though they favoured ps2 previous gen, essentially microsoft gained a good chunk % of core gamers due to this

I'm not sure how valid that actually is, especially since many console launched earlier yet did not immediately snag a large portion of core gamers. In any case, that would simply explain why the 360 has more core gamers; that wouldn't negate it true.

Xbox just seems to be built around a few franchises. Halo, COD and Forza. While, on PS3 games may sell less, but there just seems to be a greater variety of what people play