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Do you want the rebels in Syria to Win?

yes 55 26.44%
 
no 77 37.02%
 
maybe 20 9.62%
 
Fuck Syria, I want games ... 54 25.96%
 
Total:206
mai on 29 May 2013
Kasz216 said:

Even if things go wrong and it ends up worse then an Assad government. It might end up better long term because it got to that stage sooner. Since i don't think there is any way for Assad to win unless he convinces the west to let Russia or Iran help them more openly.

So you haven't followed my advice, have you?



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sales2099 on 29 May 2013

I hope they don't....they are associating with Al Quieda and if they create a new government, you have yet another middle eastern state that will be run based on Sharia Law and Islam basically integrated into the law.



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Kasz216 on 29 May 2013
mai said:
Kasz216 said:

Even if things go wrong and it ends up worse then an Assad government. It might end up better long term because it got to that stage sooner. Since i don't think there is any way for Assad to win unless he convinces the west to let Russia or Iran help them more openly.

So you haven't followed my advice, have you?

For the life of me I'm not sure what your referring too.  As far as i can tell though there are two options.

The status quo of what's happening now mantaining.

The rebels winning.... and likely putting in place a shitter government.

 

The Status quo leads to contant death, and fighting forever pretty much until the status quo loses it's power.

The Rebels winning, likely leads to a shitter government and more infighting... but eventually may turn into something decent.



Zizzla_Rachet on 29 May 2013
Kasz216 said:
mai said:
Kasz216 said:

Even if things go wrong and it ends up worse then an Assad government. It might end up better long term because it got to that stage sooner. Since i don't think there is any way for Assad to win unless he convinces the west to let Russia or Iran help them more openly.

So you haven't followed my advice, have you?

For the life of me I'm not sure what your referring too.  As far as i can tell though there are two options.

The status quo of what's happening now mantaining.

The rebels winning.... and likely putting in place a shitter government.

 

The Status quo leads to contant death, and fighting forever pretty much until the status quo loses it's power.

The Rebels winning, likely leads to a shitter government and more infighting... but eventually may turn into something decent.


Is the west just scared of states armed by Russia?



 



Kasz216 on 29 May 2013
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Kasz216 said:
mai said:
Kasz216 said:


Is the west just scared of states armed by Russia?


Not sure what you mean.  The reason why I think it'd be better long term is simply because the rebels winning at some point is a foregone conclusion basically.  They won't take any territory but they'll continue to be a major drain until something happens that eventually leads to the fall of the Assad government.

So why not just get it out of the way sooner rather then later.



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RenCutypoison on 29 May 2013

They are engaging teenagers in Belgium, so I don't like them. No matter the reasons they have



the2real4mafol on 29 May 2013
Zizzla_Rachet said:
Kasz216 said:
mai said:
Kasz216 said:

Even if things go wrong and it ends up worse then an Assad government. It might end up better long term because it got to that stage sooner. Since i don't think there is any way for Assad to win unless he convinces the west to let Russia or Iran help them more openly.

So you haven't followed my advice, have you?

For the life of me I'm not sure what your referring too.  As far as i can tell though there are two options.

The status quo of what's happening now mantaining.

The rebels winning.... and likely putting in place a shitter government.

 

The Status quo leads to contant death, and fighting forever pretty much until the status quo loses it's power.

The Rebels winning, likely leads to a shitter government and more infighting... but eventually may turn into something decent.


Is the west just scared of states armed by Russia?

If someone is a ally of Russia, they are usually friendly with China too. A country no one would want to mess with. It's why no one from the west has intervened in Syria through direct force and only given aid and some arms 



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NobleTeam360 on 29 May 2013

Hell no why would you want terrorists to win?



the2real4mafol on 29 May 2013
mai said:
the2real4mafol said:

why would our governments do this? It's like they ignore their own history. Iran 1953, Afghanistan 1980's to present, Iraq 2003-2011 and now possibly Syria. Why install a radical muslim dictator just so later on we will overthrow them for what horrible acts they will do? We even done this to non-muslim states like Chile and america tried it's luck with Venezuela and Cuba before. But I just don't understand that and what i can't believe is no one has really noticed it, all we need to do is look at the last 60 years and we can see it has happened. It's like everything is a big conspiracy

Ask people from Zero Hedge or Pepe Escobar of AsiaTimes, they'll probably tell you it's a fight for hydrocarobnes transit routes, ask people with more traditional background in geopolitics they'd probably tell -- the whole idea of Arab Spring is to destabilize the region (it certainly done that, whether for better or worse) for whatever reason. Both might not be mutually exclusive.

But given your question is more general (and rhetorical, still answer it anyway), I believe you confusion is coming from the idea of national government pursuing national interests. Since the stance of major EU countries on situation in Syria is questionable if not counter-productive in regards to their national interests, confusion is understanable. Simple solution is to get rid of idea of national goverment when talking about Western World entirely, it doesn't exist.

I suppose you support the European Union then? they want a European super state in the end



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the2real4mafol on 29 May 2013
NobleTeam360 said:
Hell no why would you want terrorists to win?

What do you mean? They are both terrorists (the rebels and the government), they are as bad as each other



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