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Andrespetmonkey said:
happydolphin said:

Well, the focus on games is better for you in a sense and not in another. The mainstream nature of the xbox one could bring it into the hands of more people. And also, we don't know what games are coming out for it.

This isn't the point though, I'm not saying anything in disagreement with that. You said regarding drm we don't know what the PS4's position will be and so it's being praised before we know the full story correct? I said it's not being praised on that, it's being praised on other stuff we do know full well about so what's wrong with that? I see the hypocrisy in bashing X1 on DRM and praising PS4 on allegedly no DRM but that isn't what's happening for the most part.

I know that we do know things about the PS4, but I believe Kowen's post was certainly a hyperbole since he has been following the threads and I'm pretty sure he's watched both unveils and knows that the specs are publicized.

I'm sure I only told him what he already knew, but maybe if he stops making annoyingly vague posts (this one I'll let slide because 3-words but based on things he's said in the past I could only assume it was bashing) and acting hypocritically I'll stop calling him out and maybe understand what he actually means.

Hey, keep it to 3 words! :P (do you think we could pull this convo off in 3 words a post? haha)

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A lot are praising the PS4 for its games and bashing the One for playing TV. That's not fair at all.

To be honest with all the bashing the X1 has been getting I think you can afford to cut him some slack and put your vendettas in the back seat.

Let it go. Give the dude a break. If you want him to chill when people post stuff bashing the X1, then you ought to lead by example.



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happydolphin said:
A lot are praising the PS4 for its games and bashing the One for playing TV. That's not fair at all.

Why isn't that fair? We've seen several PS4 games but seen more TV on X1 than games. Is that not true?

Now, I'm well aware of the 15 exclusives and game-focused E3 for X1, so personally I don't see the tv stuff as a fault of the console, only the reveal, but I can understand why some gamers would think MS gives very little shits about gaming or core gamers when they spend most of their reveal (an event predominantly being watched by core gamers) talking about TV, sport games, and call of duty. 

To be honest with all the bashing the X1 has been getting I think you can afford to cut him some slack and put your vendettas in the back seat.

Let it go. Give the dude a break. If you want him to chill when people post stuff bashing the X1, then you ought to lead by example.

Should I let Turkish's bs go when PS starts getting bashed a lot? I hardly ever respond to PS4 bashing, I can think of maybe a handful of times including this time, and when I do it never involves bashing X1.





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Andrespetmonkey said:
happydolphin said:
A lot are praising the PS4 for its games and bashing the One for playing TV. That's not fair at all.

1. Why isn't that fair? We've seen several PS4 games but seen more TV on X1 than games. Is that not true?

Now, I'm well aware of the 15 exclusives and game-focused E3 for X1, so personally I don't see the tv stuff as a fault of the console, only the reveal, but I can understand why some gamers would think MS gives very little shits about gaming or core gamers when they spend most of their reveal talking about TV, sport games, and call of duty. 

To be honest with all the bashing the X1 has been getting I think you can afford to cut him some slack and put your vendettas in the back seat.

Let it go. Give the dude a break. If you want him to chill when people post stuff bashing the X1, then you ought to lead by example.

2. Should I let Turkish's bs go when PS starts getting bashed a lot? I hardly ever respond to PS4 bashing, I can think of maybe a handful of times including this time, and when I do it never involves bashing X1.

 

1. It's not fair because the 1 will easily get games and TV will not stop that from happening.

It's not fair because for years the PS  brand had multimedia capabilities that the Nintendo brand didn't have, yet the PS community was all over it. Sometimes it makes me very sad to see that community as the most vocal because oftentimes it is painfully biased.

2. I think that if we're going to ask certain users to relax, yes I certainly think it means that that should be across the board. If a thread is put in place to basically allow free game for xbox bashing, if a pro-xbox user has something mildly controversial to say about the PS I think it's fair to give him right of way.



happydolphin said:
1. It's not fair because the 1 will easily get games and TV will not stop that from happening.

It's not fair because for years the PS  brand had multimedia capabilities that the Nintendo brand didn't have, yet the PS community was all over it.  Sometimes it makes me very sad to see that community as the most vocal because oftentimes it is painfully biased. 

Did Sony ever spend literally half of a PS event talking about the CD player in the PS1? Or the DVD player in the PS2? PS3 and it's "it only does everything" campaign was pretty big, but did it ever delay Sony showing a bunch of games because they had some alternative ways to watch tv on the PS3?

Microsoft made it seem as if X1 is more like Apple TV than a gaming console, contrasted with Sony making PS4 seem like it was built specifically for core gamers. The difference is "It plays games, and also tv and stuff" and "It plays tv and stuff, and also games". This is completely fair to criticise from the gamer's perspective. Can people go overboard? Absolutely. Are there illegetimate criticism's also? Sure. 

2. I think that if we're going to ask certain users to relax, yes I certainly think it means that that should be across the board. If a thread is put in place to basically allow free game for xbox bashing, if a pro-xbox user has something mildly controversial to say about the PS I think it's fair to give him right of way.

I don't see it that way. Maybe I'm not looking at the bigger picture like you are, and maybe being in the bigger camp makes me less empathetic; I just see someone make a silly post and so I respond to it.