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so i'm going to be honest, i had to youtube startopics cause i had no idea..

..but it basically looks like zelda. being so old retro could really do whatever they want with the franchise but basically it would turn out a lot like zelda other than the cosmetics.



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kitler53 said:
so i'm going to be honest, i had to youtube startopics cause i had no idea..

..but it basically looks like zelda. being so old retro could really do whatever they want with the franchise but basically it would turn out a lot like zelda other than the cosmetics.

It's actually really different to zelda, the platforming is puzzle. For example, there are hidden platforms, some platforms are switches, there are hidden passages in the walls. You can only jump from tile to tile and the enemy AI is coded against that mechanism.

It really is different from Zelda, the only thing they have in common is hearts, a top-down view and a selection of items.



happydolphin said:
kitler53 said:
so i'm going to be honest, i had to youtube startopics cause i had no idea..

..but it basically looks like zelda. being so old retro could really do whatever they want with the franchise but basically it would turn out a lot like zelda other than the cosmetics.

It's actually really different to zelda, the platforming is puzzle. For example, there are hidden platforms, some platforms are switches, there are hidden passages in the walls. You can only jump from tile to tile and the enemy AI is coded against that mechanism.

It really is different from Zelda, the only thing they have in common is hearts, a top-down view and a selection of items.

..all of which is in zelda.  maybe not to the same extent but it was there.  i'm not saying it's a clone or anything but it's different in the way that halo and killzone are different.  i dunno, like i said i never played it... but i imagine a moderized version would be a 3rd person adventure game ala modernized zelda.



I would say an Uncharted game with lots of fourth wall breaking for humour. I loved the game as a kid, but I don't see much point in updating it.



kitler53 said:

..all of which is in zelda.  maybe not to the same extent but it was there.  i'm not saying it's a clone or anything but it's different in the way that halo and killzone are different.  i dunno, like i said i never played it... but i imagine a moderized version would be a 3rd person adventure game ala modernized zelda.

You'd have to have played the game to understand then. Jumping on tiles one at a time presents a very different gaming dynamic to Zelda.

A lot of the things in Castlevania are also in Zelda, so I don't see your point.



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happydolphin said:
kitler53 said:

..all of which is in zelda.  maybe not to the same extent but it was there.  i'm not saying it's a clone or anything but it's different in the way that halo and killzone are different.  i dunno, like i said i never played it... but i imagine a moderized version would be a 3rd person adventure game ala modernized zelda.

You'd have to have played the game to understand then. Jumping on tiles one at a time presents a very different gaming dynamic to Zelda.

A lot of the things in Castlevania are also in Zelda, so I don't see your point.

The Zelda style of gameplay is too basic to where it's close enough to any gameplay that has any similarities to it that people will say it's a Zelda clone.  As someone who's not a Zelda fan it's something that annoys me, but I see the reasoning behind it since while the game may not be not exactly like Zelda, it's got similarities.  It's a platforming version of Zelda where the games platforming is puzzle based.  Instead of pushing a block and hitting a switch, you'll jump onto a switch that opens a door instead.  Other stuff like killing all the enemies still applies, and finding certain ways to progress through the dungeon in order to get to the end.  The first area in Star Tropics you could lead yourself into circles was in the ghost town for example. 

The second game removes the puzzle based platforming in turn for skill based platforming, something that makes me think they felt that they couldn't do platforming properly so decided to use the preset platforming on the original as a crutch(which made it an awesome and very unique game.)  It's still got the puzzle elements, but not so much.  Even then, the game still borrows from Zelda, theh kill all enemies to clear a room, and there are still switches on the ground that open doors.

Star Tropics is one of Nintendo's best franchises in my opinion, and I was disappointed that they've never brought it back, but they're fine with bringing back a franchise I didn't care for.  Kid Icarus, but not an actual good game.  The reason I think that Star Tropics failed as a viable Nintendo franchise is that the sequel, Zoda's Revenge, launched in 1994, well after the SNES was released, and unlike their well known characters, Mike was just a normal kid.  The sequel was set up to be a failure from the start.  I actually got both the original and Zoda's Revenge the same day, brand new from a bargain bin(I think in KB toys,) so the original didn't sell well at all either.



like others said, a game with Uncharted/Tomb Raider style



blood and sex scenes

oh wait that's making a hardcore game

FPS and a bazooka should do it



    R.I.P Mr Iwata :'(

Honestly i think it would be a bad idea to try, at least if they wanted to try to make it a AAA franchise. The treatment worked for Kid Icarus, but the aesthetics are so different here, as Star Tropics was more reliant on the gags and would end up looking far more awkward however they decided to render it, unless the went with a sprite-based or hand-drawn 2d game.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

TheLastStarFighter said:
I would say an Uncharted game with lots of fourth wall breaking for humour. I loved the game as a kid, but I don't see much point in updating it.

Well as for 99% of people, it is a new IP cause no one has heard of it.

As for the 1% of people they will see it as an old franchise they loved being brought back to life, so they will be happy.

As for anyone anti-Nintendo though they will scream.  Nintendo has no new IP's, they just reuse old IP's, they are not creative, ect.  I mean they dissed the Kid Icarus game as an old game, cause it was on like the NES.  They probably had never heard of Pit before Smash bros, but as soon as they found out it was not a NEW IP, then its back to dissing on Nintendo for having no new ideas.