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wolfofthepack said:
Goatseye said:
wolfofthepack said:
wait wait what are we buying a xboxone or ps4 again? cause last time i checked i had a computer for the rest of those stuff

Do you have a smart phone? If you do, don't you have a computer ( probably cheaper) for the extra stuff?

It's all about convinience and feeling good.


nope i dont got a smart phone i have a black berry to use only bbm i dont need more that 1 device doing the same its a waste of time!

i want ps4 or xbox1 to play games not talk to somebody or skype or the community to c wa the helll am i doing only app i appericate is net flix

You're in luck buddy Xbox One games also. 15 exclusives and tons of big publishers backing it out. I'm still not sure if it plays games...



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Goatseye said:
wolfofthepack said:
Goatseye said:
wolfofthepack said:
wait wait what are we buying a xboxone or ps4 again? cause last time i checked i had a computer for the rest of those stuff

Do you have a smart phone? If you do, don't you have a computer ( probably cheaper) for the extra stuff?

It's all about convinience and feeling good.


nope i dont got a smart phone i have a black berry to use only bbm i dont need more that 1 device doing the same its a waste of time!

i want ps4 or xbox1 to play games not talk to somebody or skype or the community to c wa the helll am i doing only app i appericate is net flix

You're in luck buddy Xbox One games also. 15 exclusives and tons of big publishers backing it out. I'm still not sure if it plays games...


15 exclusives isn't that much. PS4 already had 28 indie devs working on PS4 games in february. Imagine the number now ^^



disolitude said:

In terms of extra features, Microsoft has a vast ecosystem of products they are integrating in to Xbox One.

For example:

Skype for Voice calling - Will Sony try to match and provide Tango or some other VOIP service and then integrate it in to gaming? If not, will this become the new "It doesn't have cross game chat with video" strike against PS4?

Skydrive for cloud storage - Each Xbox account has 7 GB of cloud sotrage on Skydrive. They can upload their in game screenshots, video captures to Skydrive and immediatly access them on their PC or smartphone. Will Sony have to strike a deal with Dropbox or Google Drive to compete here?

Windows kernel - Xbox One is running a modified version of Windows Kernel and this should give it a big advantage when it comes to multitasking, snap view, app porting etc... Sony will have to work very hard to develop XMB to be as robust as possible in order to compete Xbox One's dashboard and provide dev tools for app development as good as Windows.

Azure - It appears that Microsoft cloud is going to be working overtime for Xbox One. Other than Gaikai Sony does not have a vast cloud offerings they could utilize for non streaming purposes. They could possibly partner with Amazon S3.

Kinect 2.0 - The tracking capabilities demonstrated by Kinect 2.0 appear to be superior to anything currently available. Sony has their eyeToy but will that be enough? Also voice detection and recognition provided by Kinect should be very robust thanks to being available and perfected on the Windows side for almost a decade.

It's pretty clear that Microsoft is bringing their whole suite of services to Xbox One. Can Sony counter these features with something of their own or will they have to make partnerships with companies to match?

Will they even bother or just focus on gaming? I am not sure they can beat Microsoft when it comes to features...

Sony doesn't have to do anything about Skype.  Microsoft has to decide, if the opportunity exists, to create an application for the PS4, and how integrated it can be.  It wouldn't be as integrated into the console as it would be with the Xbox One, but I think Microsoft is more interested in growing Skype adoption than making Skype only available on the Xbox One.  I see Microsoft's integration with the Xbox One as being much tighter and synergystic with Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8.  Plus if the patents are for products, then what's coming is going to be really cool.

I don't think the cloud services are as big of a challenge for Sony as it may seem.  They'll have to invest, but I don't see the basics as an issue.  Sony's already doing cloud saves, so the rest is just stuff to add on.  It's the infrastructure that Sony will have a problem with.  Microsoft is building out Xbox LIVE 19 times larger than it currently is.  Each Xbox One will have three virtual machines available to it in the cloud.  Your entire library of games, movies, and music* will be available for your access on any Xbox One you're logged in.  Movies and games will be instantly accessable even if they've never been downloaded through streaming.

I don't see Sony having as big of a problem with tracking using Move and the PS4 Eye camera.  While I don't think they'll be able to do things as nicely as Microsoft, I do think they'll have similiar features.  We've already some of the features that we know they'll share.  The automatic slip-screen and the ability to identify users by controller.  Sure, Kinect actually identifies you, not the color of the light on your controller, but the functional parts are equal.  I think there'll be a lot of that.  Kinect will be slicker, but in the end the PS4 Eye delivers similar functionality.

People have erroneously saying Xbox One is multitasking.  The Snap feature isn't a multitasking feature.  It's the visualization of the two virtual machines that are operating independently of the Hyper-V host OS, each designed for a specific purpose.  When you snap an app in the Xbox One, you're instantly starting another virtual machine.  The App virutal machine (Shared) runs constantly.  It's always live for services like messaging (mail) or apps that have to be live, like Skype.  When you switch from one virtual machine to the next you aren't multitasking in the traditional (computer lingo) sense.  You're switching between views.  Either the shared apps view or the games view.

Sony on the other hand, based on what I've seen, will have to go the multitasking route.  Not a huge deal, but it will mean in some situations that it won't be as instant as with the Xbox One.  Sony will just be using a more traditional route.

I think people are trying to find where one console will be far superior over the other and to be painfully honest, I don't think either will be that significantly better than the other. 

* even from your Windows 8 PC/Laptop/Tablet or Windows Phone 8 mobile device



RenCutypoison said:


15 exclusives isn't that much. PS4 already had 28 indie devs working on PS4 games in february. Imagine the number now ^^

Indies? Ok, they're great system pushers. Isn't that right?



Goatseye said:
RenCutypoison said:
 


15 exclusives isn't that much. PS4 already had 28 indie devs working on PS4 games in february. Imagine the number now ^^

Indies? Ok, they're great system pushers. Isn't that right?


They already have 6 AAA exclusives confirmed and namable, how does Xbone have again ? Numbers are just numbers.

http://fr.playstation.com/ps4/games/

What is deep down ? 



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ethomaz said:

Windows - Windows kernel better for multitasking? Sorry but it is worst than Linux and Mac OSX (BSD based) for multitasking... Sony will use a OS with BSD kernel and I can't see worst multitasking here... but I agree Windows have better UI but Sony can put a good UI over BSD too.


No ethomaz, this isn't 90's anymore. Of course Windows nowadays has decent multitasking. I am a really big fan of Unix (and all it derivates) but there is no advantage nowadays. And don't get me started ranting about OSX :)



RenCutypoison said:


They already have 6 AAA exclusives confirmed and namable, how does Xbone have again ? Numbers are just numbers.

http://fr.playstation.com/ps4/games/

What is deep down ? 

Xbox exclusive titles are mega hits whether you want to believe it or not. What does 6 AAA titles mean? Numbers are just numbers. The only Sony exclusives to be highly sucessful this gen were Uncharted and GT. Before you reply look at the support from you fans: low sales and low multiplayer adhesion. Something didn't compel you guys about them.



Goatseye said:
RenCutypoison said:
 


15 exclusives isn't that much. PS4 already had 28 indie devs working on PS4 games in february. Imagine the number now ^^

Indies? Ok, they're great system pushers. Isn't that right?

Depends, indies can be a bit of a wild card. It is worth getting as many as possible as one of them could end up being the next Minecraft.



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Goatseye said:
RenCutypoison said:
 


They already have 6 AAA exclusives confirmed and namable, how does Xbone have again ? Numbers are just numbers.

http://fr.playstation.com/ps4/games/

What is deep down ? 

Xbox exclusive titles are mega hits whether you want to believe it or not. What does 6 AAA titles mean? Numbers are just numbers. The only Sony exclusives to be highly sucessful this gen were Uncharted and GT. Before you reply look at the support from you fans: low sales and low multiplayer adhesion. Something didn't compel you guys about them.

Crazily enough, Xbox 360 gamers don't buy more games than ps3 gamers. It's only blockbusters that scores higher on xbox, in fact, implying ps3 gamers buy more different games.



Its funny since Ps3 was THE media center when it was released (and even more after Blu-ray won),now Xbox tries and will most likely succeed better than Ps4 in non gaming related stuff.But I think since they decided to name it Xbox One, many consumers will think it just a game console, no matter what we "pros" try to tell them...



 

 

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