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Zappykins on 24 May 2013
avais1993 said:
Can someone please explain how cloud can make it more powerful?

Because it can delegate some of the things I needs to do, to the servers on the network.  It's like fixing a big fancy dinner.  You want to make a whole bunch of really nice things, but you can’t do it all by yourself.  So you call a few friends or restaurants to make and deliver 3 of the 4 things you are serving for dinner.  You still have to do your part, but because you have 3 other helpers, you can show more for your end result.  So you make a fancy entre, some else makes wonderful appetizers, the restaurant delivers an assortment of fresh bread, and another restaurant a super awesome desert tray.

You serve your super fancy dinner.  Everyone is amazed and goes home happy with a full belly. You in effect 'offloaded' some of your workload to the 'cloud' the other people/restaurant.

So, as you go through a huge city, as in Watch Dogs, you could have a more depth story, changes you make will be remembered.

Things might look better, much larger draw distance, with real time events going on in the distance.  So if you walk to them, they will engage you.  Remember thing you have done, smarter enemies.

 



 

Really not sure I see any point of Consol over PC's since Kinect, Wii and other alternative ways to play have been abandoned. 

Top 50 'most fun' game list coming soon!

 

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ironmanDX on 24 May 2013
taus90 said:
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
Nsanity said:
taus90 said:
its cute some MS supporter will believe whatever MS will say. No wonder the conference was targeted at casual audience, who wouldn't even understand what cloud processing means.

The same could also be said about Sony and Ninty fans.

yeah true.. but not such ridiculous stuff.


How do you know? You know better about MS hardware and cloud capabilities than they do?

Ok. I will not buy into this and believe you all wise and powerful random guy on the internet.

All hail the mighty taus90, who can not only see into the future, but also must have an Xbox ONE connected to MS' cloud infrastructure and it only measured up at 39x as powerful.

LOL Dont want to get into technical on this stuff as many people have explained on this thread that what and where are the bottle necks. Ill say its just ridiculous to thinking about Cloud processing for "gaming" this generation. Maybe next generation, 7 years down the line when a new console will be introduced MS will release just a cheap hardware based around their Cloud. But with xbone they are building a base for that future, Just like they used 360 as a trojan Horse to replace it with an entertainment hub..


Yeah, see. right there is the problem. The Xbox ONE isn't even out yet. We haven't seen what it is capable of when used with the cloud and people already "know".

 

They don't, neither do I. Microsoft does. I'll trust the 300 billion dollar company on this one, not some random guy over the internet.



maximrace on 24 May 2013

can some people stop bitching, yeez it's getting so annoying. Let people enjoy the things they want and stop destroying things you don't like



NiKKoM on 24 May 2013
pezus said:
kowenicki said:


gaikai and onlive proved themselves? Really?

ms has that in house already, and it will be better. It's a certainty. 

For one, Gaikai is the fastest and most widespread cloud gaming network. If that counts for anything in your world...

MS doing it better is not a certainty...at all.

This "secret sauce" is ridiculous. 

Uhm.. when Gaikai was bought they had nothing really set up.. you couldn't subscribe yet.. couldn't make an account..  you could only play demo's at their website cause they didn't even had deal with publishers.. Onlive was the one that was actually working for consumers.. Gaikai was in a proof of concept stage..



 

Face the future.. Gamecenter ID: nikkom_nl (oh no he didn't!!) 

walsufnir on 24 May 2013
NiKKoM said:
pezus said:
kowenicki said:


gaikai and onlive proved themselves? Really?

ms has that in house already, and it will be better. It's a certainty. 

For one, Gaikai is the fastest and most widespread cloud gaming network. If that counts for anything in your world...

MS doing it better is not a certainty...at all.

This "secret sauce" is ridiculous. 

Uhm.. when Gaikai was bought they had nothing really set up.. you couldn't subscribe yet.. couldn't make an account..  you could only play demo's at their website cause they didn't even had deal with publishers.. Onlive was the one that was actually working for consumers.. Gaikai was in a proof of concept stage..

According to their website this hasn't really changed... But I am ready for prooving me wrong.



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Dr.Grass on 24 May 2013
kowenicki said:
MS does cloud better than anyone.

I don't think people realise this.

It's a core business for them.


http://hothardware.com/News/Sony-Acquires-Gaikai-Worlds-Largest-Cloud-Gaming-Service/



taus90 on 24 May 2013
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
Nsanity said:
taus90 said:
its cute some MS supporter will believe whatever MS will say. No wonder the conference was targeted at casual audience, who wouldn't even understand what cloud processing means.

The same could also be said about Sony and Ninty fans.

yeah true.. but not such ridiculous stuff.


How do you know? You know better about MS hardware and cloud capabilities than they do?

Ok. I will not buy into this and believe you all wise and powerful random guy on the internet.

All hail the mighty taus90, who can not only see into the future, but also must have an Xbox ONE connected to MS' cloud infrastructure and it only measured up at 39x as powerful.

LOL Dont want to get into technical on this stuff as many people have explained on this thread that what and where are the bottle necks. Ill say its just ridiculous to thinking about Cloud processing for "gaming" this generation. Maybe next generation, 7 years down the line when a new console will be introduced MS will release just a cheap hardware based around their Cloud. But with xbone they are building a base for that future, Just like they used 360 as a trojan Horse to replace it with an entertainment hub..


Yeah, see. right there is the problem. The Xbox ONE isn't even out yet. We haven't seen what it is capable of when used with the cloud and people already "know".

 

They don't, neither do I. Microsoft does. I'll trust the 300 billion dollar company on this one, not some random guy over the internet.

 True I dont know what Xbox one is capable off, maybe it will support such features. But what i know is the bandwith infrastructure for homes around the world isnt capable for a cloud process gaming. And a 300 billion dollar company cant change that! so this xbone is a build up towards that future, i just dont see it feasible this generation.. maybe we will see some prototype games to test the waters.



RenCutypoison on 24 May 2013
BenVTrigger said:
NYCrysis said:
Now that I think about it lets do some maths. So the xbox is 10x the 360 and with the cloud 40x. That means with the cloud the xbox 720 will be 4x more powerful than w/out the cloud which is about the specs of an nvidia titan gpu. So know MS is saying that they will be able to support a potentially 20-50Million + gamers with "Cloud Processing" economically? XBOX GO HOME!


MS is building 300, 000 servers for Xbox One at launch. They can handle it


300.000 servers, without any more information on this, could mean 300k surface tablet unsold used as servers.

1 server per 20 users is a lot, isn't it ?



ironmanDX on 24 May 2013
taus90 said:
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
Nsanity said:
taus90 said:
its cute some MS supporter will believe whatever MS will say. No wonder the conference was targeted at casual audience, who wouldn't even understand what cloud processing means.

The same could also be said about Sony and Ninty fans.

yeah true.. but not such ridiculous stuff.


How do you know? You know better about MS hardware and cloud capabilities than they do?

Ok. I will not buy into this and believe you all wise and powerful random guy on the internet.

All hail the mighty taus90, who can not only see into the future, but also must have an Xbox ONE connected to MS' cloud infrastructure and it only measured up at 39x as powerful.

LOL Dont want to get into technical on this stuff as many people have explained on this thread that what and where are the bottle necks. Ill say its just ridiculous to thinking about Cloud processing for "gaming" this generation. Maybe next generation, 7 years down the line when a new console will be introduced MS will release just a cheap hardware based around their Cloud. But with xbone they are building a base for that future, Just like they used 360 as a trojan Horse to replace it with an entertainment hub..


Yeah, see. right there is the problem. The Xbox ONE isn't even out yet. We haven't seen what it is capable of when used with the cloud and people already "know".

 

They don't, neither do I. Microsoft does. I'll trust the 300 billion dollar company on this one, not some random guy over the internet.

 True I dont know what Xbox one is capable off, maybe it will support such features. But what i know is the bandwith infrastructure for homes around the world isnt capable for a cloud process gaming. And a 300 billion dollar company cant change that! so this xbone is a build up towards that future, i just dont see it feasible this generation.. maybe we will see some prototype games to test the waters.

Google Fiber is well on it's way in the US and here in Australia, our Government is rolling out a NBN, (national broadband network) which can reach speeds of up to 40x ADSL. It'll happen soon, Japan is doing something similar too.... Not that it matters too much for the Xbox ONE!!! LOL!



RenCutypoison on 24 May 2013
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
ironmanDX said:
taus90 said:
Nsanity said:
taus90 said:
its cute some MS supporter will believe whatever MS will say. No wonder the conference was targeted at casual audience, who wouldn't even understand what cloud processing means.

The same could also be said about Sony and Ninty fans.

yeah true.. but not such ridiculous stuff.


How do you know? You know better about MS hardware and cloud capabilities than they do?

Ok. I will not buy into this and believe you all wise and powerful random guy on the internet.

All hail the mighty taus90, who can not only see into the future, but also must have an Xbox ONE connected to MS' cloud infrastructure and it only measured up at 39x as powerful.

LOL Dont want to get into technical on this stuff as many people have explained on this thread that what and where are the bottle necks. Ill say its just ridiculous to thinking about Cloud processing for "gaming" this generation. Maybe next generation, 7 years down the line when a new console will be introduced MS will release just a cheap hardware based around their Cloud. But with xbone they are building a base for that future, Just like they used 360 as a trojan Horse to replace it with an entertainment hub..


Yeah, see. right there is the problem. The Xbox ONE isn't even out yet. We haven't seen what it is capable of when used with the cloud and people already "know".

 

They don't, neither do I. Microsoft does. I'll trust the 300 billion dollar company on this one, not some random guy over the internet.

 True I dont know what Xbox one is capable off, maybe it will support such features. But what i know is the bandwith infrastructure for homes around the world isnt capable for a cloud process gaming. And a 300 billion dollar company cant change that! so this xbone is a build up towards that future, i just dont see it feasible this generation.. maybe we will see some prototype games to test the waters.

Google Fiber is well on it's way in the US and here in Australia, our Government is rolling out a NBN, (national broadband network) which can reach speeds of up to 40x ADSL. It'll happen soon, Japan is doing something similar too.... Not that it matters too much for the Xbox ONE!!! LOL!

Yeah, I'm sure NA and Japan are representative of the whole gaming market.