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oniyide on 23 May 2013
Darc Requiem said:
oniyide said:
Darc Requiem said:
The sad saga continues. Everyone thought Nintendo was the on that didn't "get it" but it's MS that doesn't get it. The Xbox One blunders are making Sony's PS3 and Nintendo's N64 blunders look like pure genius at this point. Anyone continuing to support their behavior needs to take their fanboy blinders off. If MS' succeed with their restrictive policies it will set a poor precedent and you'll likely see Sony and Nintendo follow suit.


Wow the fact that you are stating this is really telling about the whole situation.


I'm not sure why my opinion would carry any more weight than anyone else. Just calling it like I see it.

maybe im wrong, but i always pegged you as an MS guy so i was just surprised is all.



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KHlover on 23 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
KHlover said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KHlover said:

Ahem, what exactly is your problem? I only stated that Notch is an important developer. Talk about overreacting...

That's cool, I have the utmost respect for his thoughts.

But did anyone hear from the guy that made Baby Maker Extreme? Really curious about what he thinks.

Ok, the last post just sounded a bit rude

Btw, I agree with you that the other devs are not really important (especially Phil Fish or whatever the Fez guy is named), Notch however is.

Still begs the question why did Minecraft go with MS and not Sony or Nintendo?

A company that cares so little about indie developers seems to keep pulling them in.

I was under the impression that XBLA used to be more open to indie devs? WiiWare was crap and I don't really know about PSN. But with the PS4 and WiiU Sony and Nintendo seem to have improved their policies regarding Indie devs while MS has not. IDK, I usually don't play indie games.



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oniyide on 23 May 2013
the2real4mafol said:

I remember when Xbox was the console for indie games, those days are clearly over. What a shame. But that Nintendo manager comments makes it even better. It's like microsoft are giving the competition a hand

But as small as indies are, ignoring them is just really stupid. Where would iOS be if it weren't for indie game developers? probably, no where


I remember when SOME xbox fans used to flaunt and tout the xbl indie scene as a point that the other two didnt have, now some are these same people are saying that indies arent important all of a sudden? Interesting.



S.T.A.G.E. on 23 May 2013
KHlover said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KHlover said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KHlover said:

Ahem, what exactly is your problem? I only stated that Notch is an important developer. Talk about overreacting...

That's cool, I have the utmost respect for his thoughts.

But did anyone hear from the guy that made Baby Maker Extreme? Really curious about what he thinks.

Ok, the last post just sounded a bit rude

Btw, I agree with you that the other devs are not really important (especially Phil Fish or whatever the Fez guy is named), Notch however is.

Still begs the question why did Minecraft go with MS and not Sony or Nintendo?

A company that cares so little about indie developers seems to keep pulling them in.

I was under the impression that XBLA used to be more open to indie devs? WiiWare was crap and I don't really know about PSN. But with the PS4 and WiiU Sony and Nintendo seem to have improved their policies regarding Indie devs while MS has not. IDK, I usually don't play indie games.


Its was more open to devs, but MS closed themselves up and became more stringent on devs and started making devs pay them to put games on Xbox Live and now its even worse, they cant even go on without a publisher now. MS keeps making their lives harder and harder. They dont understand nor care for the trials of developers without publishers.



KHlover on 23 May 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
KHlover said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KHlover said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KHlover said:

Ahem, what exactly is your problem? I only stated that Notch is an important developer. Talk about overreacting...

That's cool, I have the utmost respect for his thoughts.

But did anyone hear from the guy that made Baby Maker Extreme? Really curious about what he thinks.

Ok, the last post just sounded a bit rude

Btw, I agree with you that the other devs are not really important (especially Phil Fish or whatever the Fez guy is named), Notch however is.

Still begs the question why did Minecraft go with MS and not Sony or Nintendo?

A company that cares so little about indie developers seems to keep pulling them in.

I was under the impression that XBLA used to be more open to indie devs? WiiWare was crap and I don't really know about PSN. But with the PS4 and WiiU Sony and Nintendo seem to have improved their policies regarding Indie devs while MS has not. IDK, I usually don't play indie games.


Its was more open to devs, but MS closed themselves up and became more stringent on devs and started making devs pay them to put games on Xbox Live and now its even worse, they cant even go on without a publisher now. MS keeps making their lives harder and harder. They dont understand nor care for the trials of developers without publishers.

Thank you^^



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Mr Puggsly on 23 May 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
EricFabian said:
coolguy said:
Wow ms is really pissing every body off.sony should jump on this help indie games


Nintendo already do that


 Sony is definitely going to pull ahead in indy games this gen. Nintendo is trying.

They definitely didn't do it before. Nor do we know what MS is actually doing.



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Mr Puggsly on 23 May 2013
oniyide said:
the2real4mafol said:

I remember when Xbox was the console for indie games, those days are clearly over. What a shame. But that Nintendo manager comments makes it even better. It's like microsoft are giving the competition a hand

But as small as indies are, ignoring them is just really stupid. Where would iOS be if it weren't for indie game developers? probably, no where


I remember when SOME xbox fans used to flaunt and tout the xbl indie scene as a point that the other two didnt have, now some are these same people are saying that indies arent important all of a sudden? Interesting.

No, when indie developers would piss and moan you could point at how MS supporting them more than Sony or Nintendo.

Indies even complain about Steam. That doesn't get much attention.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 23 May 2013
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
EricFabian said:
coolguy said:
Wow ms is really pissing every body off.sony should jump on this help indie games


Nintendo already do that


 Sony is definitely going to pull ahead in indy games this gen. Nintendo is trying.

They definitely didn't do it before. Nor do we know what MS is actually doing.

The devs just said what MS is doing, ignoring indy devs without publishing. This means more games and more possible diamonds in the rough for Sony. Hell Sony might even fund some of their games. 



Carl on 23 May 2013

Anyone remember Steve Ballmers "DEVELOPERS!" rant?

Thats kinda funny now.



                            

Mr Puggsly on 23 May 2013
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Mr Puggsly said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
EricFabian said:
coolguy said:
Wow ms is really pissing every body off.sony should jump on this help indie games


Nintendo already do that


 Sony is definitely going to pull ahead in indy games this gen. Nintendo is trying.

They definitely didn't do it before. Nor do we know what MS is actually doing.

The devs just said what MS is doing, ignoring indy devs without publishing. This means more games and more possible diamonds in the rough for Sony. Hell Sony might even fund some of their games. 

You do know MS publishes many games on Xbox Live, right?

See for yourself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_published_by_Microsoft_Studios

If MS said they were no longer publishing indie games, that would be another story.



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