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Blood_Tears said:
I wonder if MS will bundle it...


Of course they will as it's a game that will show nextgen has arrived. Seems racing-games are popular to be bundled.



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Mmmfishtacos said:
sales2099 said:
 

Sales and following are essentially the same, lol. What about critical acclaim? Surely as a gamer quality should matter? Why did you neglect that? Huh? 

Graphics (GT7)???? wow. Were gonna see Forza 6 in all likelihood before GT7. In terms of the now, 2013, the generatonal gap will ensure that Forza is the premiere simulator for the foreseable future. 

 

Critical acclaim means nothing in the end. Forza scored better with the critics because its more "game" like than sim. It’s as simple as that. IF you don’t understand racing or how to drive a car, GT is going to be a strain. Forza employs tricks like wider track and Auto steering that never turns off. Making the reviews feel better than they really are.

You'll only see Forza 6 before gt7 because it's turned in to a yearly release for MS. It’s nothing but another way to milk their customers. Sims games aren’t needed every year. There is very little can be done to advance a sim in a year. 

Even with the Generation gap Forza will never be the premier simulator (it’s not a sim just so you know). People will still be going back to GT for that, Pro drivers will train on it and pro drivers will be made from it. This is what a "premiere simulator does and what Froza doesn’t.

 

You can turn off auto steering last I checked. I see nothing wrong with making a sim more fun, but I digress. Forza is a 2 year cycle. Horizon isn't mainline. Don't say its yearly.

Forza is a sim, but I guess it will always be debatable. Saying critical acclaim means nothing as a gamer is a very weird thing to say. Sure GT has the sales, but Forza has the quality nailed every time, and the 2 year dev cycles still earn 90+ metas because they do actually have enough improvements to warrant consistent quality. And Turn 10 has a huge employee base, PD is relatively small. Thats why the release gap is so one-sided.

But despite all this, every Forza makes a solid profit before bundles, proving that this system is not only good for business, but the fans are rewarded. It would suck for me to start and graduate college without playing the next entry in my favourite sim. But I guess GT fans don't mind the wait.

Forza is the premiere simulator in quality, GT is the premiere simulator in sales. And now one will reap the next gen benefits and the other will remain in the generational dust so-to-speak. Sorry to be so confrontational, but a GT fan coming into a Forza reveal thread and saying sales > quality with double releases....I won't stand for that.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

Mmmfishtacos said:
sales2099 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
Nsanity said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
kowenicki said:
SnowPrince said:
That's nice !!
Forza 5 Vs Drive club, should be interesting to watch !


no contest.

seriously.

 

Seriously? I don't think you've been paying attention. Drive club is going to give Forza a run for its money, And GT will be doing what it always does, and destroy them both. 

 

Destroy them in what way?

 

Sales, following, graphics (GT7), and physics. Just about everything.

Sales and following are essentially the same, lol. What about critical acclaim? Surely as a gamer quality should matter? Why did you neglect that? Huh? 

Graphics (GT7)???? wow. Were gonna see Forza 6 in all likelihood before GT7. In terms of the now, 2013, the generatonal gap will ensure that Forza is the premiere simulator for the foreseable future. 

 

Critical acclaim means nothing in the end. Forza scored better with the critics because its more "game" like than sim. It’s as simple as that. IF you don’t understand racing or how to drive a car, GT is going to be a strain. Forza employs tricks like wider track and Auto steering that never turns off. Making the reviews feel better than they really are.

You'll only see Forza 6 before gt7 because it's turned in to a yearly release for MS. It’s nothing but another way to milk their customers. Sims games aren’t needed every year. There is very little can be done to advance a sim in a year. 

Even with the Generation gap Forza will never be the premier simulator (it’s not a sim just so you know). People will still be going back to GT for that, Pro drivers will train on it and pro drivers will be made from it. This is what a "premiere simulator does and what Froza doesn’t.

 


MMD! No GT is even close to reality as this would require computing-technology we still don't have for common customers.



I rate Turn10. Seriously, they've one-upped Polyphony somewhat over the past few years.



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Forza Motorsport 5: 1080p trailer: http://www.gamersyde.com/news_forza_motorsport_5_1080p_trailer-14081_en.html



sales2099 said:
Mmmfishtacos said:
sales2099 said:
 

Sales and following are essentially the same, lol. What about critical acclaim? Surely as a gamer quality should matter? Why did you neglect that? Huh? 

Graphics (GT7)???? wow. Were gonna see Forza 6 in all likelihood before GT7. In terms of the now, 2013, the generatonal gap will ensure that Forza is the premiere simulator for the foreseable future. 

 

Critical acclaim means nothing in the end. Forza scored better with the critics because its more "game" like than sim. It’s as simple as that. IF you don’t understand racing or how to drive a car, GT is going to be a strain. Forza employs tricks like wider track and Auto steering that never turns off. Making the reviews feel better than they really are.

You'll only see Forza 6 before gt7 because it's turned in to a yearly release for MS. It’s nothing but another way to milk their customers. Sims games aren’t needed every year. There is very little can be done to advance a sim in a year. 

Even with the Generation gap Forza will never be the premier simulator (it’s not a sim just so you know). People will still be going back to GT for that, Pro drivers will train on it and pro drivers will be made from it. This is what a "premiere simulator does and what Froza doesn’t.

 

You can turn off auto steering last I checked. I see nothing wrong with making a sim more fun, but I digress. Forza is a 2 year cycle. Horizon isn't mainline. Don't say its yearly.

Forza is a sim, but I guess it will always be debatable. Saying critical acclaim means nothing as a gamer is a very weird thing to say. Sure GT has the sales, but Forza has the quality nailed every time, and the 2 year dev cycles still earn 90+ metas because they do actually have enough improvements to warrant consistent quality. And Turn 10 has a huge employee base, PD is relatively small. Thats why the release gap is so one-sided.

But despite all this, every Forza makes a solid profit before bundles, proving that this system is not only good for business, but the fans are rewarded. It would suck for me to start and graduate college without playing the next entry in my favourite sim. But I guess GT fans don't mind the wait.

Forza is the premiere simulator in quality, GT is the premiere simulator in sales. And now one will reap the next gen benefits and the other will remain in the generational dust so-to-speak. Sorry to be so confrontational, but a GT fan coming into a Forza reveal thread and saying sales > quality with double releases....I won't stand for that.


Sorry bud, you can't say GT isn't quality, which is seems like your trying to do. If Forza is such a great Sim why can't it dream of out selling GT? Because, it isn't that great as a sim. And the sIm racers know it. And these are the people that choose what Sim is best and that is GT. Sorry, Critics Don't mean shit when it comes to a sim racer (or any game for that matter, I've palyed many top rated games this gen that i thought sucked) because they are video game players and not sim racers and there’s a huge difference. You can scream quality all you want but it won’t be true. 

No you can't turn off the auto assist I’m talking about, Like i said they set the game up to make people feel like they are better than what they really are. You can do a internet search if you don't believe me. 

What do you mean double releases? 

 



walsufnir said:

MMD! No GT is even close to reality as this would require computing-technology we still don't have for common customers.

Even so GT still made pro drivers... and pro drivers uses GT... I need to ask to pro drivers why?



ethomaz said:

walsufnir said:

MMD! No GT is even close to reality as this would require computing-technology we still don't have for common customers.

Even so GT still made pro drivers... and pro drivers uses GT... I need to ask to pro drivers why?

how can gt6 be so much better then? they said physics will be much better, that wouldn't be possible if it is already that good. and a next gen gt7 will have much better physics as gt6. 

thing is, it's closer to reality as most other racing games but that doesn't make a game super real even with the name real driving simulator. the game will still calculate a lot of stuff wrong or won't even calculate it because you need much stronger systems for decent calcualtion of physics. 

the reason why real drivers use it is because it is still more accurate as other games and the reason why some gt players are real pro drivers now is because they got the chance in the gt academy, they weren't a pro when they sat in a real race car for the first time in their life. they still had to learn a lot of hours to drive a real race car.

but sure, someone who is the best of the world in such a game should have a better understanding as someone who plays only minesweeper. i think even the best nfs or grid players would be much better drivers.

after playing gt7 in some years you can go back to gt5 and you will see.



Nsanity said:
Forza Motorsport 5: 1080p trailer: http://www.gamersyde.com/news_forza_motorsport_5_1080p_trailer-14081_en.html


That just looked stunning.



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