| Conegamer said:
Wii U- Slightly undertracked (Around 200k) |
Why exactly do you think this? From the data we have as of the end of March...
USA
NPD: 1075k
VGC: 1116k
Europe (not exactly covering the exact same territories)
Nin: 547k
VGC: 596k
Japan:
MC: 854k
VGC: 858k
So where is the Wii U undertracked by 200k when it is overtracked 94k based on the numbers we know?
pezus said:
Why is it erroneous to think that a (slowly) dying console sees a drop YOY in shipments? That's only logical, but I suppose anything is possible with PS2. Why would you imagine PS2 shipments were closer to 3.5 or 4m? Is that a gut feeling or based on something else? |
Just a gut feeling really. I would imagine that if the PS3 had outshipped the 360 Sony would have said something. So as they have paired up the numbers, it makes sense that the PS2 may have sold more than we may think.
Yakuzaice said:
Why exactly do you think this? From the data we have as of the end of March... USA Europe (not exactly covering the exact same territories) Japan: So where is the Wii U undertracked by 200k when it is overtracked 94k based on the numbers we know? |
Was merely going on the fact that at current sales rates, the Wii U has nearly 6 months supply on shelves. Sure, it's possible that they stuffed the channels and there's a lot of Wii U's just waiting to be bought, but it's a pretty high number. I'm not saying the numbers are coming from Japan or the US, though, as we have "accurate" numbers for them (though the whole NPD stuff isn't exact).
But again, it just seems like with current sales trends there's a lot on store shelves.
@ conegamer
If you agree with my other points, then you must agree with the Wii numbers, which is selling on par with the Wii U and has a similar number of supply on shelves. Also, you must remember that while we are entering a slow period of the year and retailers will be ordering less stock, supply is still a little bloated from the holidays. I also imagine Nintendo was trying their darnedest to reach their already lowered goal of 4M.
As for the PS3, I chose the same number as the 360 because when VGC did adjust numbers right after shipments and Nintendo's charts, Sony and MS were usually shown to have the same number in supply. Sometimes MS was shown to have more. 1.2M just seemed to be a good number between the 1-1.5M that I believe ioi said was usually on shelves. 3DS was close enough to 1M, so I decided to leave it as is.
I fail to see how the PS2 remained relatively flat YOY, given that everything else is declining. If I remember correctly, I believe the PS2 was still selling in some US stores in early FY2011. The PS2 definitely did not have that luxury in FY2012. I don't recall any announcements of it starting to sell in any new regions, either. Most of that happened in 2009/2010. So, it's pretty easy to see why the PS2 would be down at least 27% YOY.
| AshKetchum1992 said: But the charts for 2007 and all the years before it (2006, 2005, 2004, etc) need the PS2 data to be complete, I mean, PS2 sold more than X360 and PS3 in 2007 so PS2 was still relevant that year, the same with 2006, 2005, etc. |
I agree. The older charts do need the data, but now (2013) the PS2 data is not needed.
drkohler said:
Huh? When did that happen? This site uses past data and mathematical formulas to estimate current trends in hw sales. For software, it's pretty much rumours and a very few individual sources. I'd say if the numbers are within 10-15% in hw and 20-25% in sw then it's a good week... |
VGchartz rarely adjusts to NPD and Nintendo, and big 3 shipment numbers anymore. Bold would often be off by 30%+ in a given week. 360 probably has not gone below 100k and yet it is at 73k.
I'm pretty durn sure that Sony would've bragged about PS3 shipment numbers if it really outsold X360.
Is 3DS still undertracked in NA weekly or not?
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| Otakumegane said: I'm pretty durn sure that Sony would've bragged about PS3 shipment numbers if it really outsold X360. Is 3DS still undertracked in NA weekly or not? |
@bold Why do people insist that Sony would do that? I think Either of them would brag that they got to 80m but not that they passed one another. Because one may has shipped more then the other but in reality still has not outsold the other due to slightly larger supply. Thing with these shipments is that I think they have around the same supply but more PS3s are in transit then 360s. Retailers only have so much space.
thought i would add two 3ds games that are undertracked pretty badly. Firstly nintnendo have released numbers for paper mario of 1.97 million sold and mario tennis at 1.11 million units sold. Even if you argue thats including shipped there is no way half a million paper marios are sitting on shelves, even more so with mario tennis. In the interest of fairness luigis mansion 2 is around 85k overtracked. Surprised big differences are not changed considering we come to this site to mainly look at the numbers. At least i do anyway!
lot a gray areas in the OP
who are you do decide what amount on shelves is normal and possible
"77.4M-77.7M* shipped as of March 2013 to VGC's 73.97M sold"
again ps3 shipped numbers are not in set in stone as ps2 numbers are included since last year, "your estimate based" is just that an estimate
DS is your only good argument
vgc has always been a estimate site numbers on here are estimates or to give a good idea of, there will be no adjustments in the near future or until more data is released
sony is still behind ms by the simple fact that they have said they overtook ms and that they started to cowardly combined there numbers
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