MANUELF said: Im really not worried about pokemon, you should all remember that is the franchise first global release instead of japan only for six months so of course the stock will be a problem that I expect will last all 2013

Kind of off topic, but I was thinking. Is Black and White really the best comparison? It'll be very tough to top that 2.6 million FW and it doesn't need to.

outlawauron said: MANUELF said: Im really not worried about pokemon, you should all remember that is the franchise first global release instead of japan only for six months so of course the stock will be a problem that I expect will last all 2013 Kind of off topic, but I was thinking. Is Black and White really the best comparison? It'll be very tough to top that 2.6 million FW and it doesn't need to.

best comparison is to diamond pearl. Cuz both were new to each handheld (1st installments) and had a much lower userbase. BW had around 30mil DS users already.

Agreed. At this point it is not very fair to compare it with B&W.

You know is Pokemon like the only RPG that started from a whole campaign story mode thing and now the multiplayer is so metagame and crap?

Otakumegane said: You know is Pokemon like the only RPG that started from a whole campaign story mode thing and now the multiplayer is so metagame and crap?

Had a long discussion/lecture about competitive Pokemon multiplayer. I came away surprised as to why or how people enjoy the game at all.

outlawauron said: Otakumegane said: You know is Pokemon like the only RPG that started from a whole campaign story mode thing and now the multiplayer is so metagame and crap? Had a long discussion/lecture about competitive Pokemon multiplayer. I came away surprised as to why or how people enjoy the game at all.

its all about the strategy

tbone51 said: outlawauron said: Otakumegane said: You know is Pokemon like the only RPG that started from a whole campaign story mode thing and now the multiplayer is so metagame and crap? Had a long discussion/lecture about competitive Pokemon multiplayer. I came away surprised as to why or how people enjoy the game at all. its all about the strategy

Apparently X & Y is doing away with a lot of that and it makes me happy. Although Pokemon Bank DLC seems like an awful idea.

outlawauron said: tbone51 said: outlawauron said: Otakumegane said: You know is Pokemon like the only RPG that started from a whole campaign story mode thing and now the multiplayer is so metagame and crap? Had a long discussion/lecture about competitive Pokemon multiplayer. I came away surprised as to why or how people enjoy the game at all. its all about the strategy Apparently X & Y is doing away with a lot of that and it makes me happy. Although Pokemon Bank DLC seems like an awful idea.

not really, i understand the pokemon bank idea. Problem from crossing from last gen to this gen is 2 main reasons. 1. People want their old pokemon back from previous games. 2. Most people hate hacked pokemon! This pokemon bank actually helps out with both categories. Also it was impossible to have data transfer from DS to 3DS (wat i heard), so this was the best solution. Pokemon Bank stores our pokemon as the name suggest and can give access to players with one game and transfer over so they can start anew. $5 a year isnt really asking much and its an option. But evrybody has their own opinions! I like wat they are doing this gen with all the new Mech! Also adding in some great Stuff! Metacritic better have this game with 92+! I mean if all the others have 85-88 scores and this XY far surpasses themits only right!!! Are you picking a copy up?

tbone51 said: outlawauron said: tbone51 said: outlawauron said: Otakumegane said: You know is Pokemon like the only RPG that started from a whole campaign story mode thing and now the multiplayer is so metagame and crap? Had a long discussion/lecture about competitive Pokemon multiplayer. I came away surprised as to why or how people enjoy the game at all. its all about the strategy Apparently X & Y is doing away with a lot of that and it makes me happy. Although Pokemon Bank DLC seems like an awful idea. not really, i understand the pokemon bank idea. Problem from crossing from last gen to this gen is 2 main reasons. 1. People want their old pokemon back from previous games. 2. Most people hate hacked pokemon! This pokemon bank actually helps out with both categories. Also it was impossible to have data transfer from DS to 3DS (wat i heard), so this was the best solution. Pokemon Bank stores our pokemon as the name suggest and can give access to players with one game and transfer over so they can start anew. $5 a year isnt really asking much and its an option. But evrybody has their own opinions! I like wat they are doing this gen with all the new Mech! Also adding in some great Stuff! Metacritic better have this game with 92+! I mean if all the others have 85-88 scores and this XY far surpasses themits only right!!! Are you picking a copy up?

I still don't understand why storing more Pokemon is a premium feature. Seems a no brainer that this should just be something that has been in the game the entire time. 

I don't plan on buying it as of now. Last Pokemon I played all the way through was Silver. I did play a little bit of Platinum and it only took a few hours to realize I didn't want to play another roster update.

outlawauron said: I still don't understand why storing more Pokemon is a premium feature. Seems a no brainer that this should just be something that has been in the game the entire time.  I don't plan on buying it as of now. Last Pokemon I played all the way through was Silver. I did play a little bit of Platinum and it only took a few hours to realize I didn't want to play another roster update.

Not only storing but transfering.

In the past you needed a link cable another copy of the game and another system if you wanted to carry Pokemon with you anew into a new file. (They cant have 2 because of save state trade abuses)

Now you can store bank them, restart and them pull em out in case you want the other starters. 

There are a lot of changes that arent so well explained like special splits and such like EVs that haven't been taught in game at all. I think Gamefreak was trying to not overwhelm the kiddies but then it creates people that levae the game thinking that they've done everything there is.

X/Y looking to change that it seems with Super training and the fact that we can see the stat changes. They're being a lot more transparent that these hidden mechanics exist.