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outlawauron on 06 July 2013
AZWification said:
hiska-kun said:
AZWification said:

I'm wondering what they'll have for the PS4 that will appeal to the Japanese market in the early days. The biggest exclusives coming at launch--Killzone, Driveclub, and Infamous--look very Western-oriented.

Which is why I said that Sony will have to show a lot at TGS. We know it'll have FF15, MGS5, and KH3, but there aren't really any other big series announced just yet. I imagine we'll hear about whatever Sony's Japanese studios are doing and the new Resident Evil at least.

         Why people use MGS5 as an example? MGS4  sold 0.83 million in Japan . It sold almost double that in Europe.

Do you realize that Japan has 125 million habitants and Europe 500 millions or so? If you take the market by proportion, Metal Gear Solid is bigger in Japan than in Europe. And please, tell me how many third parties games reach 800k copies sold in Japan nowadays. 

     Even the original MGS sold double in Europe.

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Barozi on 06 July 2013

I don't think that any Japan vs Europe comparisons make sense.

Europe has still many countries that are not as developed as Japan and video game market is not the same. PC gaming (especially in Eastern Europe) has a much higher priority.

In case of MGS it makes even less sense. That a Japanese game fares better in Japan than Europe is not really suprising.



hiska-kun on 06 July 2013
Barozi said:
I don't think that any Japan vs Europe comparisons make sense.

Europe has still many countries that are not as developed as Japan and video game market is not the same. PC gaming (especially in Eastern Europe) has a much higher priority.

In case of MGS it makes even less sense. That a Japanese game fares better in Japan than Europe is not really suprising.

He started saying that MGS5 shouldn't be considered, just because the game sells the double in Europe for obvious reasons (more population). 

The fact is that MGS is a IP that MATTERS in Japan and it's important there. That's the point of the discussion.



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NintendoPie on 06 July 2013
Kresnik said:

Why are everyone's expectations so high for Pikmin? O_o.

I mean, it's the only Wii-U game to chart in what seems like forever. Certainly it's the only game since launch to get a decent amount of points.

And given just how low Wii-U is selling lately, I don't think you can expect too many people to pre-order. If Pikmin is going to be a system seller to people (I have no idea if it is or not), then they probably won't pre-order the game and just pick it up when they pick up the console.

I wouldn't worry about it. It'll open lower than Pikmin 2; probably Pikmin 1 as well, but given how poorly the console it's on is doing at the moment I don't think it'll 'flop'. Unless your expectations for it aren't in check.  It's simply the wrong game for this point in the console's life; but it can still have some relative success.

And besides, it's been doing very well on amazon.jp these last couple of weeks :)

Because you would think by the third game in a series there would be a generally large amount of fans that would pre-order the game due to them knowing that the series is a good one. Pikmin 3 has no evidence of this idea. At least on the COMG charts.

Who knows, though. Maybe it'll surprise us on the real charts?



tbone51 on 06 July 2013
NintendoPie said:
Kresnik said:

Why are everyone's expectations so high for Pikmin? O_o.

I mean, it's the only Wii-U game to chart in what seems like forever. Certainly it's the only game since launch to get a decent amount of points.

And given just how low Wii-U is selling lately, I don't think you can expect too many people to pre-order. If Pikmin is going to be a system seller to people (I have no idea if it is or not), then they probably won't pre-order the game and just pick it up when they pick up the console.

I wouldn't worry about it. It'll open lower than Pikmin 2; probably Pikmin 1 as well, but given how poorly the console it's on is doing at the moment I don't think it'll 'flop'. Unless your expectations for it aren't in check.  It's simply the wrong game for this point in the console's life; but it can still have some relative success.

And besides, it's been doing very well on amazon.jp these last couple of weeks :)

Because you would think by the third game in a series there would be a generally large amount of fans that would pre-order the game due to them knowing that the series is a good one. Pikmin 3 has no evidence of this idea. At least on the COMG charts.

Who knows, though. Maybe it'll surprise us on the real charts?



it might be the case, i been checkin and pikmin 3 been in the top 20 for over 2 weeks now, while COMG its barely moving!



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Kresnik on 06 July 2013

NintendoPie said:

Because you would think by the third game in a series there would be a generally large amount of fans that would pre-order the game due to them knowing that the series is a good one. Pikmin 3 has no evidence of this idea. At least on the COMG charts.

Who knows, though. Maybe it'll surprise us on the real charts?


But that's assuming that most of the ~500k people who bought Pikmin 2 in Japan own a Wii-U.  There's only ~900k total Wii-U owners according to the numbers here.  Seems a tall order.

Plus, 9 years between sequels.  I adore the franchise but I was ready to play Pikmin 3 around 2008 when it was first announced.  5 years and a £250 investment later mean that I don't really have the same desire or means to do that anymore.

In an ideal world I think the game would've done much better coming out late 2014 after the insall base grew; so it could sell to a few dedicated fans and try to draw in a new crowd at the same time.  Right now, it seems unlikely/impossible to sell to either of these groups.

Perhaps indeed it'll do better in actual sales numbers.  It's certainly having a decent time on amazon at the moment.



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NintendoPie on 06 July 2013
Kresnik said:


But that's assuming that most of the ~500k people who bought Pikmin 2 in Japan own a Wii-U.  There's only ~900k total Wii-U owners according to the numbers here.  Seems a tall order.

Plus, 9 years between sequels.  I adore the franchise but I was ready to play Pikmin 3 around 2008 when it was first announced.  5 years and a £250 investment later mean that I don't really have the same desire or means to do that anymore.

In an ideal world I think the game would've done much better coming out late 2014 after the insall base grew; so it could sell to a few dedicated fans and try to draw in a new crowd at the same time.  Right now, it seems unlikely/impossible to sell to either of these groups.

Perhaps indeed it'll do better in actual sales numbers.  It's certainly having a decent time on amazon at the moment.

Now, to end this speculation off; what do you think Pikmin 3 will do LT and End of Year?

I feel like it will have around Pikmin sales, or near 2 Million for LT. I'm not sure about End of Year, though.



tbone51 on 06 July 2013

How much will pikmin get today??? 2points? maybe 3.????????



Kresnik on 06 July 2013

NintendoPie said:

Now, to end this speculation off; what do you think Pikmin 3 will do LT and End of Year?

I feel like it will have around Pikmin sales, or near 2 Million for LT. I'm not sure about End of Year, though.


Oh, I have no idea.  I don't like to predict :P



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tbone51 on 06 July 2013

MH4 pulled a good # today

Mario+Luigi moving slowly up!

Pikmin 3 needs a bigger boost but watever lol