How could you not like Shmups, you...monster! :(

And I'll tell you what I tell everyone. Wait for whatever happens the 21st. Of course you are not hyped: you don't know anything until MS says something, like the rest of us.

You're being subjective. You expect everyone to nod and agree?

What game did I mention was a timed exclusive? The games mentioned haven't moved to other consoles. I don't feel anything I mentioned is shovelware.

What can 100% of 360 owners buy? Uhmmm... all of it?

Being on the PC as well doesn't really matter in my opinion. PC isn't apart of the console war.

There are 5 or 6 worthile exclusive new IPs? That's more than a few like you claimed existed. Also, who cares if they're new IPs? Why do we have ignore new games of old IPs? Those aren't in demand?

I'm not going to argue who has the best new IPs. Its subjective.

I'm gonna assume where you said 360, you meant the next Xbox.

Do we know its gonna be $500?

New iterations were most of the best selling games this gen.

I think you've said enough, sir. You're out of touch.

I compare a JRPG to an other JRPG. =P

But yeah, apples and oranges if you compare the quality of both. Vesperia is miles behind Lost Odyssey. Just like you said, most JRPGs suck compared to it.

Whoa whoa whoa... I didn't agree that Vesperia is miles behind. Its just a different type of game.

I like Halo and Gears of War. Both shooters, but play very different and appeal to me for different reasons.

Gears of war is a third person shooter. Halo is a first person shooter...

I guess what you mean is that Lost Odyssey is a turned based JRPG, while the Tales series has more of an active battle system. That's the battle system, but inherently, they're both the same type of game. The structure of both games are the same, even if they use different systems here and there.

I think MS will release a decent launch lineup for the 720. Heck Call of Duty Ghosts and Battlefield 4 will likely push the system pretty well in North America, MS's most popular region, and they aren't even exclusive.

A lot of people like Halo 4, a lot of people feel Halo is being milked and are sick of it, a lot of people have opinions on games, I'm just saying mine as a 360 owner.

You don't feel Ninty Nine Nights is shovelware? Exactly what are your standards for gaming?

75% of 360 owners don't own Kinect, and Kinect is more expensive then compeditor systems (Wii). So half the games you mentioned aren't even accessible to most 360 owners, unless they buy what some would argue, a whole new system (Kinda like a Sega CD).

But PC DOES matter. If the best Microsoft exclusives are available on PC, then you don't really need a 360 to enjoy the best of gaming. Not all people have powerful computers, but years down the road a normal PC's specs will be able to play those "exclusives" so in reality, most people have access to PC-Console "exclusives."

As for old IP's, MS is kinda milking them..... Yes Gears of War, Forza, and Halo are pretty cool, but with a new game every 1-2 years, It's a bit much. Yes they are important, but without drastic changes to the franchises, they don't give much incentive to get a 720.

720 is rumored to be around $500, and I believe that's how much PS4 cost (might be a rumor). However 360 launched at $500, and it's likely that 720 will cost roughly the same, if not more, then the PS4. Heck 360 costs just as much as PS3 now since it hasn't been keeping up with price cuts, I don't think MS wants to cut profit to undercut Sony.

New iterations were most of the best selling games this gen? Last I checked Gears of War 3/Judgement sold much less then Gears 1 and 2, Halo 4 and Reach sold much less then Halo 3, and Forza Motorsport 4 sold less then FM3. When franchises like Uncharted, Fable, and Elder Scrolls are selling better and better, and those 3 key franchises are selling less and less, I think it's fair to say that they are making less of an impact then previous iterations, and might be indication that those franchises are "milked."

Let's not beat around the bush, if Uncharted games were released on PC the same day they were released on PS3, Xbox fans would not let it be called an exclusive.

See what i'm getting at?

Secondly, people bring up like 4 exclusive japanese/asian xbox 360 games, If you want me to walk into a store over here in Japan and take a picture of all the PS3 games you never even knew existed, we're talking 100+ here, that are exclusive to PS3, I will gladly do so.

What you're seeing is Microsoft's brief folley into attracting the japanese crowd, but the competition in that market from nintendo and sony are just insurmountable - A microsoft console will *never* sell better than sony or nintendo consoles here simply because of the types of games the company focuses on, if you're into dating sims and you live in japan, you have 1, maybe 2 on 360, 40-60 on PS3 and over 500 on PS2, which still sell well in major stores despite the ps2 being old hat.

Let's just be honest here, if you're into JRPG's or JShmups, buying an american console is like buying an Eco car because you're into the sounds of a classic V8.

All i have to say is that the OP is a child and doesn't know how to respond to other people's arguments or posts.

The topic itself is childish as his statement is based off of nothing and pure fanboyism. 

It's good to be excited but when others share there opinion of doubt, dont be a child. 

Moderated,

-Mr Khan

Console gamers are the minority, 500 Million+ people alone own iPods, iPads and iPhones capable of running iOS games and apps, then an easy 500 Million+ Android devices with the same capabilities, and you're looking at a market with 1 Billion + owners, compared to that console sales are trivial.

Also, and i'm just being honest here, i stuck up for you at one point in this thread but seeing more of your responses just makes me feel like i wasted my breath, you're the 'make a loud statement then stick your fingers in your ear and shout la la la cant hear you' whenever someone says something you dont agree with, type, thus a lost cause.