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KHlover said:
veritaz said:
KHlover said:
veritaz said:

I just checked ign and it has 19 games above an 8 and 29 games 8 and above for the vita if you don't just count retail games.

Most people care especially about retail games, downloadable games are just a nice afterthought.

Yeah, but it still has 19 games retail at 8 and above. I do agree with the inconsistancy in the reviews, I read them and what they say contradicts the final score every time by at least 1 full point. Everyone else in the comments seems to think that too.

Oh sorry, I was a bit confused by this formulation. 19 retail games with eight and above actually is really nice, I think the real reason Vita isn't doing so well is the stigma of "downgraded ports" attached to it (which isn't true to the degree some people think it is), even among the Sony fanbase.

On a side note, if you like one piece you are awesome. (This is just an assumption from your avatar)



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veritaz said:
KHlover said:
veritaz said:
KHlover said:
veritaz said:

I just checked ign and it has 19 games above an 8 and 29 games 8 and above for the vita if you don't just count retail games.

Most people care especially about retail games, downloadable games are just a nice afterthought.

Yeah, but it still has 19 games retail at 8 and above. I do agree with the inconsistancy in the reviews, I read them and what they say contradicts the final score every time by at least 1 full point. Everyone else in the comments seems to think that too.

Oh sorry, I was a bit confused by this formulation. 19 retail games with eight and above actually is really nice, I think the real reason Vita isn't doing so well is the stigma of "downgraded ports" attached to it (which isn't true to the degree some people think it is), even among the Sony fanbase.

On a side note, if you like one piece you are awesome. (This is just an assumption from your avatar)

I love One Piece. Favorite manga by far^^



Nem said:

You know that those websites only get payed to hype the big american developed AAA console releases.

Portable gaming is a chore for them.


Pretty much this.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

Or maybe...the games in question just aren't that good?



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veritaz said:

I just checked ign and it has 19 games above an 8 and 29 games 8 and above for the vita if you don't just count retail games.


It has 17 games scored 8 and above retail not 19.

Still not a bad number at all. But my point here is that even though most of those are ports, and decent ports at that with a few niggling issues that quite frankly are a given because it's a handheld, the home console versions are getting scored higher.

I mean if the games were literally carbon copies of the home consoles then we wouldn't be buying a PS3/Xbox360 in the first place!

It's more a criticism of IGN than anything, not a serious attack at the Vita so put the shield down.



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Vita games have low review scores therefore the conclusion is that reviewers are biased?

Sorry, but I'm going to need more evidence than that before I conclude that IGN, or reviewers in general are biased against Vita.

As evidence against your argument (that IGN specifically is biased against Vita), there are only 17 Vita games with metacritic scores above 80/100, which is not that many considering
1) Above 8/10 means at least 8.5 out of 10 for IGN, but above 80 means at least 81/100 for metacritic. Of the 17 games above 80, only 7 are 85 or above on Metacritic.
2) Metacritic would have scores for more games.
3) The 10 IGN games are only including "retail games" I looked through the 17 titles and a few of them appeared to be downloadable, not retail. I may be wrong on this, don't yell.

So yeah, IGN = Vita's biggest fans apparently.

Edit: Just realised 1) is not true. I don't really look at review scores ever, so was unaware.



Most reviewers treat Vita games as if they are console games. No, Vita is not a portable PS3. When we get a handheld that is a true portable console I'm pretty sure we'll know, because then they'll price the games $60.



I think you're a bit cynical. I checked Metacritic scores for Vita games and IGN tends to score Vita games higher than the Metascore. This kind of is the same way they do it with other consoles as well.



fillet said:
veritaz said:

I just checked ign and it has 19 games above an 8 and 29 games 8 and above for the vita if you don't just count retail games.


It has 17 games scored 8 and above retail not 19.

Still not a bad number at all. But my point here is that even though most of those are ports, and decent ports at that with a few niggling issues that quite frankly are a given because it's a handheld, the home console versions are getting scored higher.

I mean if the games were literally carbon copies of the home consoles then we wouldn't be buying a PS3/Xbox360 in the first place!

It's more a criticism of IGN than anything, not a serious attack at the Vita so put the shield down.

You're right I rechecked and it is 17, I must have counted 2 digital games by accident. Also i didn't say anything remotely to offend you and I completely agreed with you on what you said so that last comment was weird and unnecessary. You should probably put the shield down instead.



MDMAlliance said:
I think you're a bit cynical. I checked Metacritic scores for Vita games and IGN tends to score Vita games higher than the Metascore. This kind of is the same way they do it with other consoles as well.


I'll confess to not having researched this in depth. Was just curious what kind of games are available for the Vita it's the one cosnole I haven't bitten on yet.

What caughty my eye was the postively worded reviews for the Vita games but the scores that didn't reflect it. So I'm not specifically saying IGN is biased against the Vita, simply that they aren't scoring it according to the text in the review and also not scoring it as a handheld.

I'd lay that last judgement on most the review sites too after having a quick comparison on Metacritic.

I think the fact that most the games are ports is playing against it simply because reviewers are expecting console perfect ports, which is unrealistic imo. People didn't expect perfect PS2 -> PSP ports back in 2005 and I remmeber the PSP actually being commended for some of it's watered down rubbish - likely because of the novelty factor.

It seems to me that reviewers are expecting more than is reasonable to expect from a handheld at the moment? It's clearly not as powerful as a PS3/Xbox360 but then so what, concessions have to be made. In the case of the latest review on IGN for example scorring GG Accent Core Plus R a 7.9 is downright ridiculous because it does what it does correctly....Something about the menus not leading to lots of extra content or something...Even though it has everything the latest home console ports haven.

It's like that for all the Vita games, the complaints for each game that make it get scored down seem awfully petty relative to the actual overall game. This has been a common thing for all console games the last few years, it's just in the case of the Vita it seems to be taken just a step too far imo.

EDIT - Also, Vita games don't cost £40/$60 so that should be taken into consideration by default.