the2real4mafol said: Surely Killzone is the first big game for PS4, it being a launch title should help sell well like the first uncharted on PS3 did

or Resistance

dsgrue3 said: I think we're going to be very surprised by PS4 game sales. Killzone:SF will sell 5m.

No it won't. I would bet my soil on it

OT: Please give very specific and definite criteria for defining what "big" is. Nothing irritates me more that threads that revolve around vague and undefined terms, only for the OP to later call people wrong because they couldn't read the OP's mind to know what the Hell he meant.

Anyway, the first five-million selling PS4 game will likely be Uncharted 4 or GT6. It's pretty crazy to expect Uncharted 4 to be available on the PS3 (or any other system) since Sony's other big (relatively speaking) studios are making PS4 exclusives. Considering that, why would Naughty Dog, arguably Sony's most significant developer at moving hardware, be the developer who makes a multiplatform game? I'm really interested in the thinking here because at this point its just a baseless assumption.

As for GT6, a release date of 2016 also is improbable. The six-year development cycle for GT5 was the exception to the typical cycle for Polphony Digital. Plus, they came out right and said GT6 would take less time to develop for because they already had the framework or something like that. Not to mention the PS4 is (supposedly) more developer friendly than the extremely difficult PS4. But none of that matters anyway since Uncharted 4 will be the game.

I don't think Killzone fits the bill at all. It's really a boring sounding franchise that doesn't capture the imagination of gamers at large. The new one looks pretty but I won't buy a system for it. None of the anounced launch titles really fit that bill.

If Final Fantasy XV has gone PS4 exclusive, that could be the title. I don't think it is though. I think it will be either multiplat or PS3/PS4 cross gen. If it's cross gen it probably won't be a system seller, though there is precident: Twilight Princess was a system-mover and sold a boatload of copies, the vast majority on Wii and not GC. The difference is most people didn't have a GC and the Wii version released first and with motion controls - a major upgrade. If FFXV is on PS3&4, most interested consumers will already have the PS3 and won't bother with the upgrade. This situation is like Wii U's 3rd party launch lineup, with most consumers seeing little reason to buy a system for games they can already get. This will be expecially true if PS4 is expensive.

I think the first big title for PS4 will be whatever Naughty Dog is working on. Assuming it's Uncharted 4, I think that will be PS4 exclusive, and will draw interest.

Jay520 said: dsgrue3 said: I think we're going to be very surprised by PS4 game sales. Killzone:SF will sell 5m. No it won't. I would bet my soil on it

Why would I want your soil?

It will sell 3m first year. (365 days)

The OP thinks God of War PS4 wouldn't move hardware LMAO, delusional.

TheLastStarFighter said: I don't think Killzone fits the bill at all. It's really a boring sounding franchise that doesn't capture the imagination of gamers at large. The new one looks pretty but I won't buy a system for it. None of the anounced launch titles really fit that bill. If Final Fantasy XV has gone PS4 exclusive, that could be the title. I don't think it is though. I think it will be either multiplat or PS3/PS4 cross gen. If it's cross gen it probably won't be a system seller, though there is precident: Twilight Princess was a system-mover and sold a boatload of copies, the vast majority on Wii and not GC. The difference is most people didn't have a GC and the Wii version released first and with motion controls - a major upgrade. If FFXV is on PS3&4, most interested consumers will already have the PS3 and won't bother with the upgrade. This situation is like Wii U's 3rd party launch lineup, with most consumers seeing little reason to buy a system for games they can already get. This will be expecially true if PS4 is expensive. I think the first big title for PS4 will be whatever Naughty Dog is working on. Assuming it's Uncharted 4, I think that will be PS4 exclusive, and will draw interest.

Killzone may not sound like much, but it's actually really fun to play. Play any of the current ones and see if you like it. I loved killzone 2. Also, it's possible we don't know about most of the launch titles, i look forward to E3. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see Uncharted 4

dsgrue3 said: Jay520 said: dsgrue3 said: I think we're going to be very surprised by PS4 game sales. Killzone:SF will sell 5m. No it won't. I would bet my soil on it  Why would I want your soil? It will sell 3m first year. (365 days)

That's a funny typo. I meant to say soul. I will wager Sig control as a compromise though.

mutantclown said: The OP thinks God of War PS4 wouldn't move hardware LMAO, delusional.

If they make it about Norse mythology and with Thor already getting that mythology to the mass consumer I bet it could be huge for the series (really any switch in character or setting since the Greek stuff is getting a bit thin at this point though Ascension was great).  Also yeah a new gen will give GoW a boost considering how epic they made things even on PS3 this late.

Jay520 said: dsgrue3 said: I think we're going to be very surprised by PS4 game sales. Killzone:SF will sell 5m. No it won't. I would bet my soil on it

Really? How many acres, and how fertile?

edit: see I'm not the first to notice the typo, nvm

Killzone... launch title.