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Yakuzaice said:
Kaizar said:

but the PSP use to sale a lot, and the PS Vita is not selling almost at all. You got to remember that the Sony join Nintendo during the DS. The 3DS is still selling more better in life time sales by 24 months then any other Handheld, while the PS Vita is selling worse then any other Handheld, which is drastically effecting the Handheld Sales.

So 3D is selling more better, while 2D is selling more worse.

And here's the 3D Movies:

2011 = 42 3D Movie premieres in Theaters

2012 = 45 3D Movie premieres in Theaters

2013 = 60 to 65 3D Movie premieres in Theaters (still working the exact numbers depending on if any of the 64 to 65 3D Movies for later this year gets push back to 2014, but like 8 of them have already premiere during the weak part of the Year for Movies: Q1)

And the 1st Year sales of 3D TVs are much greater then the first year sales of HD TVs. And same goes for the 2nd year sales comparison & 3rd year sales comparisons & etc.

If anything 2D seems to be on the decline in sales & popularity, while 3D is clearly on the incline.

That was my point.  Even if the 3DS had a sales explosion, the handheld market would still be down without the Vita turning itself around.  But that is all just specualation about future sales.  The facts we have before us is that in March 2013 the entire handheld market is less than what the DS alone did from 2007-2011 in March

The 3DS has not sold more after 24 months than any other handheld.  I don't know why you keep throwing out blatantly false information.  Whether we are talking about US sales or Worldwide sales, it's not true.

The number of 3D movies released doesn't really indicate whether or not there is a bubbling demand for 3D content.  The studios have put a lot of effort into pushing 3D movies to increase average ticket prices, and they aren't going to give up at the drop of a hat.  It's not like this is the first time 3D movies have come around anyway.

In 2011 there were 601 movies tracked in the US box office.
In 2012 there were 659.

I can't seem to find hard data on annual sales of HDTV's and 3DTV's, so I'll go ahead and take your claims at face value.  Even so, it is hardly the same situation.  11 years ago, the average selling price of an HDTV was $8900.  Meanwhile you can get 3DTV's for as low as $500.  In general, 3D just seems to be treated as another feature on higher end TV's rather than a unique selling point.  Even for the people with 3DTV's, I wonder what percentage of the content they watch is 3D.  I'd imagine it is quite low.

If 3D was setting the world on fire, why haven't there been more 3D phones?  It looks like there was a moderate push by a few companies in 2011, but it is down to just LG now, and their latest 3D smartphone was announced more than a year ago.  Why are people buying Samsung and Apple phones by the bucket load when those companies seem to show no interest in 3D?  Same with gaming, if people are clammoring for 3D, why have Sony and Microsoft's efforts petered out?  Why isn't it front and center on the Wii U?  Lastly, kind of coming full circle, why isn't the 3DS doing better?  If 3D is going to cause it to take off in March 2014, what was going on in the previous three years?


The only thing 3D is missing is content, which is taken of by Hollywood & Nintendo.

3D will really take off in 2014 because it will finally have the library of content needed as well as more ways to watch with Vudu currently having 3D streaming and Hulu Plus trying to set up their 3D streaming this year after failing to meet their set date of by the end of 2012. And Netflix has been trying to increase their Bandwidth by 4 times since 2011, but have more limitation on their budget for streaming for how they do things, but they have recently done 2 times more and used it for 1080p streaming.

Samsung & Apple have a Brand to be able to pull of selling their cell phones. Apple is clearly saving 3D as a great feature, just look at the iPad 3, it has the name The New iPad, which means there will most likely be a New iPad 2 follow by the New iPad 3D. Apple is all about mostly marketing, ever since after the release of the iPhone.

But Smartphones are the only bad area for 3D, because of lack if content. It got only 1 awesome 3D game, and 1 pre-install 3D movie, and no Netflix App and most of them got discontinued because they went to long without content.

As I said content is the only thing that has been missing for 3D in the past, but now the only thing that is missing is content is the 3D Smartphone department.

Plus over 95% of manufacture TVs in the world are 3D TVs these days.

And Apple is saving Glasses-free 3D for a big show off after they milk the less love features to be added on the next iPad & iPhone.



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MaxwellAllen said:
According to the projected numbers on this site... it's matching PS3 sales. For a single week...

Smartphones and tablets meanwhile are outselling EVERYTHING.. 50:1? I'm sure it's close to that ratio lol.

Nintendo is doomed because their stock dropped 77%, it's cash value -- uninvestable due to the companies complete inability to compete in the hardware marketplace. Even IF nintendo makes a profit off wiiu, eventually, it will only be a small profit and really not enough to continue justifying an irrelevant market position. It's so painfully obvious that the CEO should be fired.

Nintendo is only staying in the hardware race because of the 16% minority shareholder who's family started the business, and apparently in japan they actually care what a minority shareholder thinks, as long as his family started the empire. So yeah, they'll continue losing money or making small profit on hardware. Either way, devs and consumers don't care.

The entire discussion is so irrelevant. It's a doomed company, anyone arguing this is just making themselves look like a novice.

Comparitively, Sony lost over 90% of its stock value from its 2000 highs.

You are clearly misinformed and ignorant. Please refrain yourself to comment on finances on which you do not understand. Furthermore, Nintendo will profit this FY on a net income basis.

Please understand.



MaxwellAllen said:
According to the projected numbers on this site... it's matching PS3 sales. For a single week...

Smartphones and tablets meanwhile are outselling EVERYTHING.. 50:1? I'm sure it's close to that ratio lol.

Nintendo is doomed because their stock dropped 77%, it's cash value -- uninvestable due to the companies complete inability to compete in the hardware marketplace. Even IF nintendo makes a profit off wiiu, eventually, it will only be a small profit and really not enough to continue justifying an irrelevant market position. It's so painfully obvious that the CEO should be fired.

Nintendo is only staying in the hardware race because of the 16% minority shareholder who's family started the business, and apparently in japan they actually care what a minority shareholder thinks, as long as his family started the empire. So yeah, they'll continue losing money or making small profit on hardware. Either way, devs and consumers don't care.

The entire discussion is so irrelevant. It's a doomed company, anyone arguing this is just making themselves look like a novice.

Cell phones have always outsell everything.

The fact that the iPhone has a fraction of the costumers it once did, while Nintendo Handhelds are gaining more customers then ever before, says it all.

Each year we have less 2D Movies and more 3D Movies. And the 3DS having better first 2 year sales then any other Home Console & Handheld shows that Smartphones/Tablets are just as powerless as PC have been finally proven to be against Home Consoles.

3D TVs also outsell HD TVs for 1st year sales, and same goes for 2nd year sales & 3rd sales & etc.

The fact is that Smartphones & Tablets have only open more people up to becoming a gamer, and the 3DS does 3D with a great library (understatement) and growing. We saw the same thing happen when PCs was dooming Home Consoles market, and it only did the opposite.



mrstickball said:
Cute. Let's compare a console that is 2 years old to consoles that are 7 years old.

Why don't we discuss this when the 3DS is 6-7 years old?


By then it will have outsold PS3 and X360 anyway. Right now it almost sold half what these consoles sold in just 2 years.



Kaizar said:

The only thing 3D is missing is content, which is taken of by Hollywood & Nintendo.

3D will really take off in 2014 because it will finally have the library of content needed as well as more ways to watch with Vudu currently having 3D streaming and Hulu Plus trying to set up their 3D streaming this year after failing to meet their set date of by the end of 2012. And Netflix has been trying to increase their Bandwidth by 4 times since 2011, but have more limitation on their budget for streaming for how they do things, but they have recently done 2 times more and used it for 1080p streaming.

Samsung & Apple have a Brand to be able to pull of selling their cell phones. Apple is clearly saving 3D as a great feature, just look at the iPad 3, it has the name The New iPad, which means there will most likely be a New iPad 2 follow by the New iPad 3D. Apple is all about mostly marketing, ever since after the release of the iPhone.

But Smartphones are the only bad area for 3D, because of lack if content. It got only 1 awesome 3D game, and 1 pre-install 3D movie, and no Netflix App and most of them got discontinued because they went to long without content.

As I said content is the only thing that has been missing for 3D in the past, but now the only thing that is missing is content is the 3D Smartphone department.

Plus over 95% of manufacture TVs in the world are 3D TVs these days.

And Apple is saving Glasses-free 3D for a big show off after they milk the less love features to be added on the next iPad & iPhone.

I still don't see what is going to be so different about the volume of content between now and march 2014.  A lot of people feel like these streaming sites have relatively sparse content as it is.  I don't see how the even smaller 3D library is going to make people want to buy a device with a small, low resolution screen and bad battery life.

That doesn't explain why they wouldn't have at least dabbled in 3D over the past four or so years.  If the demand is actually as feverish as you imply, then surely Samsung would like to get a leg up on Apple and release a 3D smartphone.  It's not like they don't have a ton of different models already.  Samsung is Apple's competitor, why would they sit on their laurels for the better part of a decade until Apple decides to make a 3D smartphone?  Also in this hypothetical future, why would people want to watch 3D content on a 3DS instead of an iPad 3D?

I very much doubt 3DTV's make up 95% of worldwide television manufacturing.

Kaizar said:

The fact that the iPhone has a fraction of the costumers it once did, while Nintendo Handhelds are gaining more customers then ever before, says it all.

Each year we have less 2D Movies and more 3D Movies. And the 3DS having better first 2 year sales then any other Home Console & Handheld shows that Smartphones/Tablets are just as powerless as PC have been finally proven to be against Home Consoles.

3D TVs also outsell HD TVs for 1st year sales, and same goes for 2nd year sales & 3rd sales & etc.

You realize saying falsehoods over and over doesn't make them true.

The iphone had it's biggest quarter ever for Oct-Dec 2012.  47.8 million.  More than the 3DS has done in 2 years.  You seem to be confused.  The iphone is bigger than ever, and Nintendo handhelds are a fraction of what they once were.

The 3DS has not had the best 2 year sales for any home console or handheld.  It is at least behind the Wii and DS.

I also don't know where you got this idea that people were saying the PC would kill consoles in the fifth and sixth generation.  If anything it has been the opposite with people saying consoles would kill PC's.



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3DS should start targeting at least 250k/week globally as it's really still weak compared to last gen. That said, the lineup should surely spice things up. Summer lineup looking good, and I expect it to really take off ahead of the rest. Hopefully 200k+/week globally at least.



I love my 3DS,but I don't have time 2 play it that much. I need to get back into the swing of things.



kopstudent89 said:
3DS should start targeting at least 250k/week globally as it's really still weak compared to last gen. That said, the lineup should surely spice things up. Summer lineup looking good, and I expect it to really take off ahead of the rest. Hopefully 200k+/week globally at least.


It will easily do more then 250,000 a week once Animal Crossing New Leaf releases in June 9 & 14.

Plus theres already Lego City Undercover Prequel exclusively for 3DS since April 21st and Shin Megami Tensei 4 & Project X Zone with a Special edition option for retail copy and Donkey Kong Counrty Returns 3D with 8 extra levels and local multiplayer just before Animal Crossing which will do who knows what for sales before the release of Animal Crossing in stereoscopic 3D.