well to be fair there is no division at sony that was greatly pushed by BluRay royalties, because no division at Sony performed particularly well, except the financial services one. Sony does a good job selling life insurances, but I doubt this was pushed by BluRay.

Nintendo Wii took a shit on PS3 and XBox 360 in terms of profits last gen.

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/12q3_sonypre.pdf

I apologize my mistake. I misread the numbers. 46 million in operational income.

Sony should post an operating loss due to Vita price cut this quarter I believe; however, they should post a profit nonetheless (net income) due to currency gains.

they sure did. That was my point of the thread.

The market is completly  different than the PS2 days  IOS and android are in the mix now. How many devs will still be making games for PS3.? Even the price point of the  PS4 changes things.

Wow, this thread is uh, interesting.

BTW Sony doesn't have sole rights to Blu-ray licenses, so those profits are pretty much split many many ways.

What a flame thread. Using figures not isolated to PS3.

If you want to actually discuss it, take Sony's share of the Cell and Blu Ray development costs and the hardware loss by region and model while the PS3 was sold at a loss in its first 2 years. Apply that against 3rd party software sales multiplied by a reasonable profit margin. Do the same with 1st party but increase profit margin while subtracting an average game development cost per title. PS Move is the only accessory with listed sales figures that you can apply some accurate profit from, calculate that and apply. Because of lack of information; other accessories, digital sales, and PS+ subscriptions will have to stay out of the mix and so will non Cell and Blu Ray general PS3 R&D and non-software marketing but give the upper hand to cost so the final tally will say a loss of at least X or a profit less than X depending on the results.

Using that logic, the whole Xbox brand is a failure, as MS has yet to make an overall profit off of the whole venture.  Again, your logic, not mine.

@ OP

As others have pointed out, you are basing your numbers on a department that housed more than just the PS3.  And it only seems to have taken the game division 2-3 years to start making a profit, again, which is when Sony put other devices in with it to cover up those losses.

Was it?

If you even have the ability within you to deny what an unbelievable comeback story it's been, then you obviously weren't that interested in the industry at the start of the gen; it went from the biggest blunder the industry has ever seen (3D0 and what not are small time ventures in comparison, lets get real) to far and away the most respected console and library of the gen.

Purely as far on the business side, that's a tiny loss compared to what we were expecting just 2 years ago even.

EDIT: Oh, and as others have already pointed out, many of the loss figures you're citing aren't limited to PS3, so in theory it's even possible there is no loss (realistically not even close to the case, just saying you haven't proven a single thing).