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Does Xbox Live deserve the criticism it gets in the forums?

Yes Xbox Live is a rip off 221 45.19%
 
No Xbox Live is the best ... 208 42.54%
 
No opinion / don't care 60 12.27%
 
Total:489
PullusPardus on 19 April 2013
kain_kusanagi said:
I'd be happy to get XBL Gold for free and I'd be happy to gas my car for free. I could ride my bike for free if I really didn't want to pay for gas. Sometimes the price of entry is just that, the price you pay to get what you want. Maybe someday everything we all want will be free, but I'm not going to hold me breath. Halo keeps me coming back for more.


You sound like this guy, and thats sad.



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BenVTrigger on 19 April 2013
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
VGKing said:

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/17897/why-cant-i-play-the-xbox-live-arcade-games-ive-bought-without-an-internet-conn

This is what I'm referring to. XBLA full games that have been payed for get reverted back to trials.

That's a license issue. Idk how anyone could read that and assume all games require an Internet connection. Just admit you had no idea what you are talking about.

No, I do know what I'm talking about. People who have owned multiple 360s(lets be honest here, a lot) experience problems like these.

An XBLA game that is re-downloaded on a new Xbox 360 won't work offline and reverts to trial mode unless you sign in to XBL. I was mistaken with my first comment obviously. I didn't have the full story. Let's move on.


No it doesnt.........

Thats only because when you get a new console you have to connect online in order to prive your not trying to pirate games.  Litteraly all you do is verify your account, transfer the liscense, and you can play the game forever offline.

You have no idea what your talking about



VGKing on 19 April 2013
BenVTrigger said:
J_Allard said:
VGKing said:

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/17897/why-cant-i-play-the-xbox-live-arcade-games-ive-bought-without-an-internet-conn

This is what I'm referring to. XBLA full games that have been payed for get reverted back to trials.

That's a license issue. Idk how anyone could read that and assume all games require an Internet connection. Just admit you had no idea what you are talking about.


Most of the people who blast Xbox Live have no idea what theyre talking about

People are not allowed to make mistakes? Here's the full story.

People who have had multiple Xbox 360s get licensing issues when playing XBLA games and DLC offline. Games revert to trial mode and DLC doesn't work at all. That's because the system ties your Xbox Live account to one system and doesn't let you use that content on other systems unless you sign in. This is an anti-piracy measure which I at first mistook for DRM.

Now I don't know if there is a way to deactive old and broke Xbox 360s and disassociate them from your Gamertag, but I know PSN has this feature and it allows for a PSN account to be tied to 2 PS3 systems.(down from 5) PSN games still work offline and so does DLC though.

This issue is more common than you would think, especially in the early years of the 360.



BenVTrigger on 19 April 2013
VGKing said:
BenVTrigger said:
J_Allard said:
VGKing said:

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/17897/why-cant-i-play-the-xbox-live-arcade-games-ive-bought-without-an-internet-conn

This is what I'm referring to. XBLA full games that have been payed for get reverted back to trials.

That's a license issue. Idk how anyone could read that and assume all games require an Internet connection. Just admit you had no idea what you are talking about.


Most of the people who blast Xbox Live have no idea what theyre talking about

People are not allowed to make mistakes? Here's the full story.

People who have had multiple Xbox 360s get licensing issues when playing XBLA games and DLC offline. Games revert to trial mode and DLC doesn't work at all. That's because the system ties your Xbox Live account to one system and doesn't let you use that content on other systems unless you sign in. This is an anti-piracy measure which I at first mistook for DRM.

Now I don't know if there is a way to deactive old and broke Xbox 360s and disassociate them from your Gamertag, but I know PSN has this feature and it allows for a PSN account to be tied to 2 PS3 systems.(down from 5) PSN games still work offline and so does DLC though.

This issue is more common than you would think, especially in the early years of the 360.

I already corrected you above.

I own / have owned 5 different Xbox 360s. Tranferring liscenses litteraly take maybe 3 minutes at most.



VGKing on 19 April 2013
BenVTrigger said:
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
VGKing said:

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/17897/why-cant-i-play-the-xbox-live-arcade-games-ive-bought-without-an-internet-conn

This is what I'm referring to. XBLA full games that have been payed for get reverted back to trials.

That's a license issue. Idk how anyone could read that and assume all games require an Internet connection. Just admit you had no idea what you are talking about.

No, I do know what I'm talking about. People who have owned multiple 360s(lets be honest here, a lot) experience problems like these.

An XBLA game that is re-downloaded on a new Xbox 360 won't work offline and reverts to trial mode unless you sign in to XBL. I was mistaken with my first comment obviously. I didn't have the full story. Let's move on.


No it doesnt.........

Thats only because when you get a new console you have to connect online in order to prive your not trying to pirate games.  Litteraly all you do is verify your account, transfer the liscense, and you can play the game forever offline.

You have no idea what your talking about

Again, I didn't have the full story.(I fully take responsibity for looking like an idiot for assuming stuff)
 Looks like there is away to transer licenses. Not as easy as you make it seem though. 

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/marketplace-and-purchasing/download-content

 

Can I transfer a content license from one Xbox 360 console to another?

Yes, you can transfer content licenses from one console to another once every four months.

If your console was recently repaired or if you’ve purchased a new console, use the license transfer option on your console to transfer content licenses. Here’s how:

  1. On your console, sign in to Xbox LIVE using the gamertag that you used to purchase the content.
  2. Go to Settings and select Account.
  3. Go to Your Billing Options and select License Transfer.
  4. Follow the instructions to transfer the content licenses.

After the licenses are transferred, you need to download the content again to update the local licenses. Then the content can be used by other profiles on your console and when you’re not connected to Xbox LIVE.

 

 

 



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Michael-5 on 19 April 2013

As a 360 ower, the hate is justified, especially because of the way the 360 is designed.

Before, the games which were free on Games for Windows, were also free on the 360. I played Lost Planet for free for over a year when I first got a 360. Plus social games in Halo 3 used to be free for silver members. Then these features got removed, thus reducing the quality of the XBL Silver experience to push people to go Gold.

Plus a lot of achievements nowdays are designed so you have an XBL subscription, and that you play online continuously. Halo 4 limits which maps you can play Spartan Ops on, so you don't get all the achievements related to specific maps in one shot, and Gears of War 3 had an achievement which required you to play one game every weekend for 30 weekends (not straight).

Ontop of that XBLG does not give you a discount on overpriced DLC, and doesn't provide you with any better service then the old XBL Silver account.

So I hate XBLG, mostly because it's ruining the experience which used to be free on Silver accounts.

----

Plus I hate MS because they are so excessive about DLC. To get the full experience for Halo or Gears, you have to spend $30 extra on a seasons pass, making Halo a $90 game (plus XBLG). No game should cost that much! Forza too, Car map packs are charge $1 per car, and if you want to buy individual cars it could cost as much as $4, that is if the car is available.

Also, again, the way games are designed on 360, makes me hate MS even more. There is no Platinum Trophy on 360, instead you have a section where all your complete games go. However on 360, a game is complete when you get all the achievements, including those in DLC, so if you complete a game, it could suddenly go off your list of complete games with DLC. For PS3 you only need to get all the original trophy's for a platinum, DLC is optional.

So I really hate MS now, they try to steal so much of your money. I wouldn't mind if the quality was good, or if down the road DLC became free or cheap (like it did for Gears of War 1 and PGR 4 respectively), but it's not anymore. Forza: Horizons DLC is Rally mode, but it's not really rally, it's just rally cars on dirt tracks. DLC nowadays also never goes down in price, often times the DLC costs more then the game after just a year or two.

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I like the way XBL was before 2009, recently MS has just gotten too greedy, and not been giving to the gamers.



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BenVTrigger on 19 April 2013
VGKing said:
BenVTrigger said:
VGKing said:
J_Allard said:
VGKing said:

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/17897/why-cant-i-play-the-xbox-live-arcade-games-ive-bought-without-an-internet-conn

This is what I'm referring to. XBLA full games that have been payed for get reverted back to trials.

That's a license issue. Idk how anyone could read that and assume all games require an Internet connection. Just admit you had no idea what you are talking about.

No, I do know what I'm talking about. People who have owned multiple 360s(lets be honest here, a lot) experience problems like these.

An XBLA game that is re-downloaded on a new Xbox 360 won't work offline and reverts to trial mode unless you sign in to XBL. I was mistaken with my first comment obviously. I didn't have the full story. Let's move on.


No it doesnt.........

Thats only because when you get a new console you have to connect online in order to prive your not trying to pirate games.  Litteraly all you do is verify your account, transfer the liscense, and you can play the game forever offline.

You have no idea what your talking about

Again, I didn't have the full story. Looks like there is away to do it. Not as easy as you make it seem though. 

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/marketplace-and-purchasing/download-content

 

Can I transfer a content license from one Xbox 360 console to another?

Yes, you can transfer content licenses from one console to another once every four months.

If your console was recently repaired or if you’ve purchased a new console, use the license transfer option on your console to transfer content licenses. Here’s how:

  1. On your console, sign in to Xbox LIVE using the gamertag that you used to purchase the content.
  2. Go to Settings and select Account.
  3. Go to Your Billing Options and select License Transfer.
  4. Follow the instructions to transfer the content licenses.

After the licenses are transferred, you need to download the content again to update the local licenses. Then the content can be used by other profiles on your console and when you’re not connected to Xbox LIVE.

 


Yes it is

 Ive done it multiple times. It litteraly takes 3-5 minutes



VGKing on 19 April 2013
Michael-5 said:

As a 360 ower, the hate is justified, especially because of the way the 360 is designed.

Before, the games which were free on Games for Windows, were also free on the 360. I played Lost Planet for free for over a year when I first got a 360. Plus social games in Halo 3 used to be free for silver members. Then these features got removed, thus reducing the quality of the XBL Silver experience to push people to go Gold.

Plus a lot of achievements nowdays are designed so you have an XBL subscription, and that you play online continuously. Halo 4 limits which maps you can play Spartan Ops on, so you don't get all the achievements related to specific maps in one shot, and Gears of War 3 had an achievement which required you to play one game every weekend for 30 weekends (not straight).

Ontop of that XBLG does not give you a discount on overpriced DLC, and doesn't provide you with any better service then the old XBL Silver account.

So I hate XBLG, mostly because it's ruining the experience which used to be free on Silver accounts.

----

Plus I hate MS because they are so excessive about DLC. To get the full experience for Halo or Gears, you have to spend $30 extra on a seasons pass, making Halo a $90 game (plus XBLG). No game should cost that much! Forza too, Car map packs are charge $1 per car, and if you want to buy individual cars it could cost as much as $4, that is if the car is available.

Also, again, the way games are designed on 360, makes me hate MS even more. There is no Platinum Trophy on 360, instead you have a section where all your complete games go. However on 360, a game is complete when you get all the achievements, including those in DLC, so if you complete a game, it could suddenly go off your list of complete games with DLC. For PS3 you only need to get all the original trophy's for a platinum, DLC is optional.

So I really hate MS now, they try to steal so much of your money. I wouldn't mind if the quality was good, or if down the road DLC became free or cheap (like it did for Gears of War 1 and PGR 4 respectively), but it's not anymore. Forza: Horizons DLC is Rally mode, but it's not really rally, it's just rally cars on dirt tracks. DLC nowadays also never goes down in price, often times the DLC costs more then the game after just a year or two.

---

I like the way XBL was before 2009, recently MS has just gotten too greedy, and not been giving to the gamers.

I'm quoting you because people need to see that its not only Sony fans criticizing  Xbox Live Gold. 



J_Allard on 19 April 2013
VGKing said:

Again, I didn't have the full story.(I fully take responsibity for looking like an idiot for assuming stuff)
 Looks like there is away to transer licenses. Not as easy as you make it seem though. 

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/marketplace-and-purchasing/download-content

 

Can I transfer a content license from one Xbox 360 console to another?

Yes, you can transfer content licenses from one console to another once every four months.

If your console was recently repaired or if you’ve purchased a new console, use the license transfer option on your console to transfer content licenses. Here’s how:

  1. On your console, sign in to Xbox LIVE using the gamertag that you used to purchase the content.
  2. Go to Settings and select Account.
  3. Go to Your Billing Options and select License Transfer.
  4. Follow the instructions to transfer the content licenses.

After the licenses are transferred, you need to download the content again to update the local licenses. Then the content can be used by other profiles on your console and when you’re not connected to Xbox LIVE.

 

 

 

Yeah, I am sure you can more accurately guage the difficulty by reading a website than someone else who has actually gone through the process.



VGKing on 19 April 2013
J_Allard said:
VGKing said:

Again, I didn't have the full story.(I fully take responsibity for looking like an idiot for assuming stuff)
 Looks like there is away to transer licenses. Not as easy as you make it seem though. 

http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/marketplace-and-purchasing/download-content

 

Can I transfer a content license from one Xbox 360 console to another?

Yes, you can transfer content licenses from one console to another once every four months.

If your console was recently repaired or if you’ve purchased a new console, use the license transfer option on your console to transfer content licenses. Here’s how:

  1. On your console, sign in to Xbox LIVE using the gamertag that you used to purchase the content.
  2. Go to Settings and select Account.
  3. Go to Your Billing Options and select License Transfer.
  4. Follow the instructions to transfer the content licenses.

After the licenses are transferred, you need to download the content again to update the local licenses. Then the content can be used by other profiles on your console and when you’re not connected to Xbox LIVE.

 

 

 

Yeah, I am sure you can more accurately guage the difficulty by reading a website than someone else who has actually gone through the process.

*SIGH* You're hell bend on refuting every single thing I say aren't you?

By DIFFICULTY, I mean the 4-month waiting period and having to re-download the content so it can be played online.

Better?