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Otakumegane said:
I don't take gamespot seriously after their Skyward Sword review.

They don't like Nintendo nowadays in general.


Yeah, that's exactly why Tom McShea (the guy who reviewed SS and talking in the video) gave Super Mario Galaxy a 9.5 and Galaxy 2 a 10. That guy definitely hates Nintendo.



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Lawlight said:
DanneSandin said:

It doesn't really matter if Nintendo software are low if they sell like Mario Kart Wii...

 

They're not selling like Mario Kart Wii anymore...

But they're still selling pretty well; Mario Kart 7 has sold over 8m by now, and that number will only increase, and it has nearly an attach ratio of 30% - just like SM3DL



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Furthermore, I think VGChartz should add a "Like"-button.

why is it that whenever people raise this point the retort by some nintendo fans is that people only want them to do an fps game?
the notion by some nintendo fans that the only genre of note outside the games nintendo makes is the fps genre is just as asinine as the notion by some people that nintendo is only for kids that ironically irks nintendo fans so much



o_O.Q said:
why is it that whenever people raise this point the retort by some nintendo fans is that people only want them to do an fps game?
the notion by some nintendo fans that the only genre of note outside the games nintendo makes is the fps genre is just as asinine as the notion by some people that nintendo is only for kids that ironically irks nintendo fans so much

Given that everything at E3 2012 seemed to be trying to be Uncharted or CoD, it's not too farfetched.



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Mr Khan said:
o_O.Q said:
why is it that whenever people raise this point the retort by some nintendo fans is that people only want them to do an fps game?
the notion by some nintendo fans that the only genre of note outside the games nintendo makes is the fps genre is just as asinine as the notion by some people that nintendo is only for kids that ironically irks nintendo fans so much

Given that everything at E3 2012 seemed to be trying to be Uncharted or CoD, it's not too farfetched.


...there's no validity behind that statement at all from what i remember of E3 2012

what games came to mind when you made that statement?



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Suke said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWD0sSeOOqw

Nintendo rely too much on nostalgia then new IPs, and its starting to grow stell. Do you agree with GameSpot?

I agree up to a point, I would love to see new IPs from Nintendo, why you think I heavliy support Dillon's Rolling Western so much. I personally feel they should have ended the zelda franchise with Skyward Sword and moved on to something new, Like Bungie ending Halo 4 and moving on to Destiny. But it is a good buisness move to push these old franchises to a new generation of players.

The videogame industry is increasingly becoming established and harder to do anything really new.  It pretty much established at this point.  Hard to say anything new.



o_O.Q said:
Mr Khan said:
o_O.Q said:
why is it that whenever people raise this point the retort by some nintendo fans is that people only want them to do an fps game?
the notion by some nintendo fans that the only genre of note outside the games nintendo makes is the fps genre is just as asinine as the notion by some people that nintendo is only for kids that ironically irks nintendo fans so much

Given that everything at E3 2012 seemed to be trying to be Uncharted or CoD, it's not too farfetched.


...there's no validity behind that statement at all from what i remember of E3 2012

what games came to mind when you made that statement?

Tomb Raider, BioShock Infinite (supposedly tweaked gunplay towards a CoD-y style from those i've spoken to), Halo 4, Resident Evil 6 come off the top of my head.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Mr Khan said:
o_O.Q said:
Mr Khan said:
o_O.Q said:
why is it that whenever people raise this point the retort by some nintendo fans is that people only want them to do an fps game?
the notion by some nintendo fans that the only genre of note outside the games nintendo makes is the fps genre is just as asinine as the notion by some people that nintendo is only for kids that ironically irks nintendo fans so much

Given that everything at E3 2012 seemed to be trying to be Uncharted or CoD, it's not too farfetched.


...there's no validity behind that statement at all from what i remember of E3 2012

what games came to mind when you made that statement?

Tomb Raider, BioShock Infinite (supposedly tweaked gunplay towards a CoD-y style from those i've spoken to), Halo 4, Resident Evil 6 come off the top of my head.


ok so four games of tens of games

although i don't really understand how bioshock and halo apply

even in terms of tomb raider and resident evil, many who have played both will disagree



xenoblade, the last story, pandoras tower, soma bringer, dillons western, pushmo, sakura samurai, the brain series, wii series, the touch gen games... nintendo has created alot of new ips... but since they have no created their own bald/space/military shooter, none of those ips counts... nostalgia is something good, but only works if you can keep the quality of the game overall... gotta praise nintendo for keep creating amazing games for more than 25 years...



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Saying that Tomb Raider is trying to be like Uncharted seems rather strange, considering that people used to same the same thing about Uncharted when it first came out (e.g., calling it "Dude Raider"), not to mention that the new Tomb Raider game does a lot of things differently from the Uncharted franchise.   Additionally, the Resident Evil franchise helped popularize the third-person shooter genre with RE4.

Back on topic, while I don't agree that Nintendo fails to innovate, a part of me does wish that they would take more risks and experiment with more new intellectual properties.