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Forums - Microsoft - UPDATE! vgleaks: Microsoft Xbox Roadmap (2013) - possible bc, online not required, used games allowed

KHlover said:
Soundwave said:
KHlover said:
Ok, after the update...I don't have any incentive to buy the Xbox Mini. Buying a Durango and a Xbox360 is cheaper...


Zuh? Sounds like XBox Mini could be $99. It's also probably much smaller than the existing 360. No disc drive + likely a 22-28nm chipset shrink is a big difference.

I get it, this is actually quite a smart strategy from MS.

The price range as mentioned in the article goes up to $150, though -> 150€ in Europe

For 130€ I can get a new 4GB Xbox360 slim with a DVD drive for movies, if I want to buy the Xbox360 used I can get the 250GB one for 110€

The few extra features of the Xbox mini just are not interesting enough for me.


I think its going to be $99. Other sources are pushing that price and this article doesn't go against that either (says lower than $149). Strip out the disc drive and this should be even cheaper to manufacture the original 360, and it'll probably run a lot quieter. If you're going to have both, I don't think you want two consoles hogging up a ton of space either, the Durango/XBox mini sound like they're probably designed to sit next to (or on top of) each other.

Not a big deal either way, but I'd rather have the mini.



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KHlover said:
Ok, after the update...I don't have any incentive to buy the Xbox Mini. Buying a Durango and a Xbox360 is cheaper...

That's the whole point of my post..... If the MiniBox contains some entertainment (tuner(s))? sw/hw, you will HAVE to buy it for the "XBox experience", whether you own a 360 or not?



JoeTheBro said:
nightsurge said:
JoeTheBro said:
walsufnir said:
Does anyone remember the 56-pages long leak from last year which also was quite dated? IIRC even in this document they were talking about two different versions of new xboxes - seems MS had this strategy long before the first rumors appeared. I think to MS everything works as they planned since a long time.

That was fake.

According to whom? I never heard about it being fake. And everything since then keeps adding more and more credibility to it.

Why do people keep saying this? Not a single thing in the document has come true.


http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=154671&page=0#1

Just a little bit of what is on the document but still you can see the path has been pretty accurate




       

Weedlab said:

I would hope this is true, or at least the reality is closer to this than what was previously posted. Fanboy bs aside, I believe all of the big 3 should bring their "A" game - that way we will all benefit, even non Microsoft enthusiasts like myself.


Completely agree.  At the very east I want all of the big three to avoid anti-consumer behavior as much as possible.  I much prefer this rumour over the earlier more concerning ones.



Soundwave said:
KHlover said:
Soundwave said:
KHlover said:
Ok, after the update...I don't have any incentive to buy the Xbox Mini. Buying a Durango and a Xbox360 is cheaper...


Zuh? Sounds like XBox Mini could be $99. It's also probably much smaller than the existing 360. No disc drive + likely a 22-28nm chipset shrink is a big difference.

I get it, this is actually quite a smart strategy from MS.

The price range as mentioned in the article goes up to $150, though -> 150€ in Europe

For 130€ I can get a new 4GB Xbox360 slim with a DVD drive for movies, if I want to buy the Xbox360 used I can get the 250GB one for 110€

The few extra features of the Xbox mini just are not interesting enough for me.


I think its going to be $99. Other sources are pushing that price and this article doesn't go against that either (says lower than $149). Strip out the disc drive and this should be even cheaper to manufacture the original 360, and it'll probably run a lot quieter. If you're going to have both, I don't think you want two consoles hogging up a ton of space either, the Durango/XBox mini sound like they're probably designed to sit next to (or on top of) each other.

Not a big deal either way, but I'd rather have the mini.

I already have a Reciever, a Wii, a WiiU and a PS3 hooked up to my TV, if I were to buy a Xbox360 and a Durango asthethics would be the least of my problems :D



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NiKKoM said:
drkohler said:
NiKKoM said:
KHlover said:
 but I wonder how many people would buy a Durango and a BC box...

you should think the other way around.. I think the new360 will be placed as THE media box out there even outselling durango.. but when people want more they'll get a durango with it cause it works so nicely with the new360.. I even wouldn't be surprised if the new360 would get yearly revisions and a new game part every 6 to 8 years..

So let me get this straight:

If you are an XBox360 owner, you probably get royally srewed by Microsoft, once again? It is very suspicious that all that tv stuff suddenly seems to go into a dedicated "Small Xbox" (and it can be expected this miracle box comes with dedicated entertainment software) . So can the old XBox360 also work as "Small Box"? Or do XBox360 users HAVE to get the "Small Box" for the entertainment pack?

The entertainment pack is for both devices.. I see it more as an trojan horse opening up a different market.. people will have the choice getting only the media device and the option of the game device later on.. while more hardcore audience will get the game device with the same media functions except the 360 BC.. one is a heavy multimedia device with light gaming abilties the other is a heavy game device with heavy multimedia abilities.. with this strategy they are attempting to tackle a much larger audience then only gamers..

I can see myself having the multimedia device in my bedroom and the game device in the livingroom..

$599!

Seriously though, this seems like a good way to get gamers and non gamers alike into the Xbox ecosystem. Xbox mini as a set top box for people who want to stream stuff and play some games on the side and the Next box as a more gaming orientated platform.



JoeTheBro said:
nightsurge said:
JoeTheBro said:
walsufnir said:
Does anyone remember the 56-pages long leak from last year which also was quite dated? IIRC even in this document they were talking about two different versions of new xboxes - seems MS had this strategy long before the first rumors appeared. I think to MS everything works as they planned since a long time.

That was fake.

According to whom? I never heard about it being fake. And everything since then keeps adding more and more credibility to it.

Why do people keep saying this? Not a single thing in the document has come true.

Of course it hasn't, because it was an old 2010 document of potential plans that have been greatly revised since then!

Nothing in that document is going to come true exactly as it was described in that document, but many of the things it talked about will come true eventually in many updated forms.

I see you did not post any supporting evidence for your claim that the document was fake. Is that simply your personal belief or did you find proof online somewhere that people found the document to be a fake?

EDIT: I see you were too hasty in saying that nothing from that document has come true. Thanks for the info JayWood. I love that thread btw, can't believe I forgot about it, or maybe I didn't realize that was from the 56-page document.



like everyone else said, these rumors look far more reasonable.



I still don't get it how this is meant to be a form of backwards compatibility. If the Xbox Mini won't have a disc drive then how am I supposed to play my existing X360 library in next gen?



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