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Tallgeese101 on 12 April 2013
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
"Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" could be the UK Number 1 this week.


What a pathetic country this is sometimes. So many morons with chips on their shoulders driven by envy or fake empathy.


It is kind of funny that socialists, anachists, the looney left, etc  will be giving their money to a big record label.



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slowmo on 12 April 2013
kennyrester said:
kowenicki said:
slowmo said:
MikeRox said:


I think the MyVoice in today's I sums a lot of it up perfectly for me:

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/grace-dent-thatchers-children-we-may-be-but-these-death-parties-are-just-childish-8567288.html

Some key excerpts:

I also question how, in 2013, one female with power during the 1980s appears to now be carrying the can for thousands of decisions made by thousands of men. 

Obviously, if you are genuinely an ex-miner or the family of one, the thought of you raising a glass to the end of a very painful era is wholly understandable. I wish you well. The truth is, of course, there is no end to this era. We’re almost precisely in the same state, government-wise, as we were. So, on the other hand, if you’re 25 and have the time and the gumption to stand about in Brixton waving a bottle of prosecco, your time could be used more profitably by doing actual work in politics. The left needs passionate young blood right now. And if you’re still so very angry about milk being snatched in the 1970s – well, believe me, schoolchildren are starving right now and this ire could be used to get milk reinstated.

In fact if you’re truly so angry about Thatcher’s legacy you might have noticed there isn’t time for any parties. Celebrating death seems to me rather childish, when there’s adult work to be done.


I've not celebrated her death as I don't agree with that practice.  Unfortunately some people just feel that's acceptable such is their hatred for the person.  If you remember when Bin Laden died, people celebrated the fact but what made that celebration acceptable to people?  To me it was that he was so hated that it was acceptable to feel jubiliation at his passing.  For these people who are celebrating Thatcher's death you have a similar level of hate towards her as a person.

My point was it wasn't fair for people to act like the pain and hardship she caused didn't happen or matter.  I'm sick of reading from people who were unaffected by the miners strikes how it was somehow everybody else fault but Thatcher's.  Anyway, I can't wait till she's buried and we stop hearing about how fantastic she was for the country (well Southern England).


And you need to stop saying that all people affected by her hated her.  It isn't true.  I am from the North, my family was affected by her... we did somehting about it.  Nobody is sying it didnt happen or didnt matter... we are saying it pretty much HAD to happen.  How ever bad you think things have been in your lifetime and recently, you need to multiply it many time for how bad things were in the late 70's in the UK.  Unburied dead people, rubbish piling up all over the counrty, regular power cuts daily, the 4 day week, going to the IMF for a bail out... we were utterly fucked.

She won 3 general elections, with 54%, 61% and 58% share of votes... this isnt just the south, this isnt just the wealthy.  Its a ridiculous thing to say.

Comparing Bin Laden and Thatcher is pretty silly.  How many elections did he win in a democratic process with a mandate to bomb people?


Where are you getting these numbers? More like 44%, 42% and 42 %

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/politics97/background/pastelec/ge87.shtml

 

The myths flying around about her success and popularity are staggering.

 

Also he didn't compare the two people, he compared the reactions to their deaths.


Thank you, it would be a lot easier to debate if people read your posts properly.

@kow - I'm sorry fella but I'm never going to agree with you on this subject.  The unions had to be dealt with but making miners and their families go for a year unpaid with no help from the state to get that job done was unacceptable.  People lost their homes, life savings and in some cases jobs to satisfy her whim.  She was so well loved at the end that her own party booted her out of office to try and save themselves.



the2real4mafol on 13 April 2013

Don't worry, here is your song Thatcherites.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnToK3kSKKg, currently #6



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Esmicksee on 13 April 2013

I don't hate Thatcher or anything like that, but a multimillion £ funeral is such a waste in my opinion. Estimates cost it at around £10m, which doesn't seem much at government level, but if you look after the pennies you look after the pounds.

That could employ a couple of hundred nurses etc for a year. Irritates me.



Badassbab on 13 April 2013
Esmicksee said:
I don't hate Thatcher or anything like that, but a multimillion £ funeral is such a waste in my opinion. Estimates cost it at around £10m, which doesn't seem much at government level, but if you look after the pennies you look after the pounds.

That could employ a couple of hundred nurses etc for a year. Irritates me.


It's also really inefficient and bad for business (London will be brought to a halt). Her funeral should be privatised and go out for tender. Winner get's to advertise their company all over London for the day.






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McGran on 13 April 2013
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
"Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" could be the UK Number 1 this week.


What a pathetic country this is sometimes. So many morons with chips on their shoulders driven by envy or fake empathy.

Don't worry.  Thatcher knew all about this campaign and she thought it was hilarious.



Majora on 13 April 2013
Tallgeese101 said:
kowenicki said:
Carl2291 said:
"Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" could be the UK Number 1 this week.


What a pathetic country this is sometimes. So many morons with chips on their shoulders driven by envy or fake empathy.


It is kind of funny that socialists, anachists, the looney left, etc  will be giving their money to a big record label.


"The Looney Left"?! I love it =D



Badassbab on 13 April 2013

http://m.channel4.com/4od/margaret-death-of-a-revolutionary
Argues Maggie fought for the aspirational working class folk against the wishes of the nations traditional elite






Pyro as Bill on 13 April 2013
Badassbab said:
http://m.channel4.com/4od/margaret-death-of-a-revolutionary
Argues Maggie fought for the aspirational working class folk against the wishes of the nations traditional elite


That's the second best thing I've watched on Mrs T after this



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