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Wright on 05 April 2013
Soriku said:
Wright said:
007BondAgent said:

the game didn't "nearly" kill them, but the series does belong on the PS3, the sales reflect that


You mean Nintendo. The top game in sales (and in quality up to these days) is Tales of Symphonia, which is exclusive to the Gamecube.


They make Tales games for the Japanese market, and that market wants Tales games on Sony consoles as evidenced by sales. ToS did very well in the West but the series as a whole doesn't have the pull that ToS did over here.


Well, but we should not take sales as evidence, then! Because Vesperia for 360 sold much more than Vesperia for Ps3, despite being done for a Sony console! And Vesperia lagged 110k units sold against Tales of Graces F, which is a Ps3 exclusive. If you mix 360 and Ps3 sales for Vesperia you've got yourself the top Tales of game regarding sales.

I'm cool for them doing it for Ps3 because of fans, but don't bring up sales. Sales show that there's market for this games in another console, another country.



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Wright on 05 April 2013
007BondAgent said:
Wright said:
007BondAgent said:
Wright said:
Otakumegane said:
Soriku said:
007BondAgent said:

awww cmon, a tales game for the PS4 would be huge


It'll come...in time.

And Vesperia 360 didn't almost kill Namco lol.


Well then what exactly did give the Tales studio that massive debt back in 2010?


So a game that sold .11 less than Tales of Graces F almost killed the Tales studio?

If money is they concern, they should go multiplat. Vesperia sales combined reach the level of Symphonia.

the game didn't "nearly" kill them, but the series does belong on the PS3, the sales reflect that


You mean Nintendo. The top game in sales (and in quality up to these days) is Tales of Symphonia, which is exclusive to the Gamecube.


well graces f bombed on the wii :P

But Symphonia 2 was sold as good as Abyss! (Despite being horrible game)



Otakumegane on 05 April 2013
Wright said:

But Symphonia 2 was sold as good as Abyss! (Despite being horrible game)


Because people like me expected it to be as good as Symphonia 1.

And got stung bad.



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Nem on 05 April 2013

Dont care about next-gen. I want to see them Vita tales localised. :(



007BondAgent on 05 April 2013
Wright said:
007BondAgent said:
Wright said:
007BondAgent said:
Wright said:
Otakumegane said:
Soriku said:
007BondAgent said:

awww cmon, a tales game for the PS4 would be huge


It'll come...in time.

And Vesperia 360 didn't almost kill Namco lol.


Well then what exactly did give the Tales studio that massive debt back in 2010?


So a game that sold .11 less than Tales of Graces F almost killed the Tales studio?

If money is they concern, they should go multiplat. Vesperia sales combined reach the level of Symphonia.

the game didn't "nearly" kill them, but the series does belong on the PS3, the sales reflect that


You mean Nintendo. The top game in sales (and in quality up to these days) is Tales of Symphonia, which is exclusive to the Gamecube.


well graces f bombed on the wii :P

But Symphonia 2 was sold as good as Abyss! (Despite being horrible game)

Symphonia 2 did alright, but the west made up for it, plus xillia sold more then it in japan alone

Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

Global Total as of 23rd Mar 2013 (units): 0.48m
Platform: Wii
Developer: Namco Tales Studio Genre: Role-Playing

Tales of Xillia

Global Total as of 23rd Mar 2013 (units): 0.66m
Platform: PlayStation 3
Developer: Namco Tales Studio Genre: Role-Playing


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Otakumegane on 05 April 2013

In all seriousness though a WiiU port of some PS3 Tales games could end up doing at least decently me thinks.

But it's never gonna happen is it.



http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/profile/92109/nintendopie/ Nintendopie  Was obviously right and I was obviously wrong. I will forever be a lesser being than them. (6/16/13)

Wright on 05 April 2013
007BondAgent said:

Symphonia 2 did alright, but the west made up for it, plus xillia sold more then it in japan alone

Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

Global Total as of 23rd Mar 2013 (units): 0.48m
Platform: Wii
Developer: Namco Tales Studio Genre: Role-Playing

Tales of Xillia

Global Total as of 23rd Mar 2013 (units): 0.66m
Platform: PlayStation 3
Developer: Namco Tales Studio Genre: Role-Playing


And Vesperia sold 0.02 less than Xillia. True, Xillia was Japan-only, but Vesperia is the seventh best Tales game (sales-wise), and the third one in the seventh generation.  There's market for the Tales games out of Japan, in another console, which is my point. Nintendo also have place, if done correctly.



MentalAlliance on 05 April 2013

Current gen or next gen, it makes no difference to me. As long as I get to keep playing my Tales games, then I'm plenty happy!



007BondAgent on 05 April 2013
Wright said:
007BondAgent said:

Symphonia 2 did alright, but the west made up for it, plus xillia sold more then it in japan alone

Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World

Global Total as of 23rd Mar 2013 (units): 0.48m
Platform: Wii
Developer: Namco Tales Studio Genre: Role-Playing

Tales of Xillia

Global Total as of 23rd Mar 2013 (units): 0.66m
Platform: PlayStation 3
Developer: Namco Tales Studio Genre: Role-Playing


And Vesperia sold 0.02 less than Xillia. True, Xillia was Japan-only, but Vesperia is the seventh best Tales game (sales-wise), and the third one in the seventh generation.  There's market for the Tales games out of Japan, in another console, which is my point. Nintendo also have place, if done correctly.

keep i mind Vesperia has been out for many years, and some of those sales were most likely from the bargin bin

anyways xillia might end up being the best selling tales game



Wright on 05 April 2013
Soriku said:
Wright said:


Well, but we should not take sales as evidence, then! Because Vesperia for 360 sold much more than Vesperia for Ps3, despite being done for a Sony console! And Vesperia lagged 110k units sold against Tales of Graces F, which is a Ps3 exclusive. If you mix 360 and Ps3 sales for Vesperia you've got yourself the top Tales of game regarding sales.

I'm cool for them doing it for Ps3 because of fans, but don't bring up sales. Sales show that there's market for this games in another console, another country.


If you're looking at VGC sales, Vesperia on 360 is hella overtracked. The game only sold around 145k in the US according to NPD, not the ridiculous 270k for NA VGC has it as (EU is likely overtracked too). Graces F only sold around 70k on PS3 in NPD though. But factoring that, Vesperia PS3 in Japan probably sold around the same or even a little better than Vesperia did on 360 worldwide.

Vesperia in Japan sold 450k (Ps3), according to several sites.

Then there's Vesperia 360, which was the second best-selling Xbox 360 game in Japan, which has sold over 200k. Now let's assume your numbers are right, then that would give a 145k (Which is a bit disappointing, I thought it had sold more) plus whatever it sold in EU (Let's say .75), a total of 450, like the Ps3 counterpart.

 

The fact that you are telling me the numbers are overtracked break my argument...