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kain_kusanagi said:
badgenome said:
kain_kusanagi said:

I only support gun show background checks, not a ban of personal sales. Gun shows can do the background checks for booths without an FFL. But I would never support any legislation that would limit our right to sell personal property.

But that's exactly what universal background checks would do. It's not about gun shows at all. "Closing the gun show loophole" is just shorthand for disallowing any private transfers of firearms.

I mean, it's kind of obvious, isn't it? Because if a piece of legislation strictly dealt with gun shows, all you'd have to do is step out to the parking lot and complete the transaction there.

That's what I'm saying. I'd only support legislation that would be meaningless but make the gun haters think they won some big battle. Then we can continue to enjoy our property as the 2nd ammendment intended. I've never bought a gun at a gunshow without a background check and I've seen people step outside to make deals as it is. If the gun haters get their gun show background checks and we get to keep our guns and still make private sales/trades I do't see a problem with it.

As for universal background checks. Maybe I wasn't aware of what it means. I assumed it was just a term for a standard gun store background check for all guns. I don't see how any law that required private citizens to get an FFL just to buy or trade private property would ever get passed int he land of the free and the home of the brave.

Because guns are inherently dangerous, and who own them should be kept track of just to make sure they can be identified for any crimes they might commit?

Licensing and tracking dangerous objects only makes sense.



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Mr Khan said:
kain_kusanagi said:
badgenome said:
kain_kusanagi said:

I only support gun show background checks, not a ban of personal sales. Gun shows can do the background checks for booths without an FFL. But I would never support any legislation that would limit our right to sell personal property.

But that's exactly what universal background checks would do. It's not about gun shows at all. "Closing the gun show loophole" is just shorthand for disallowing any private transfers of firearms.

I mean, it's kind of obvious, isn't it? Because if a piece of legislation strictly dealt with gun shows, all you'd have to do is step out to the parking lot and complete the transaction there.

That's what I'm saying. I'd only support legislation that would be meaningless but make the gun haters think they won some big battle. Then we can continue to enjoy our property as the 2nd ammendment intended. I've never bought a gun at a gunshow without a background check and I've seen people step outside to make deals as it is. If the gun haters get their gun show background checks and we get to keep our guns and still make private sales/trades I do't see a problem with it.

As for universal background checks. Maybe I wasn't aware of what it means. I assumed it was just a term for a standard gun store background check for all guns. I don't see how any law that required private citizens to get an FFL just to buy or trade private property would ever get passed int he land of the free and the home of the brave.

Because guns are inherently dangerous, and who own them should be kept track of just to make sure they can be identified for any crimes they might commit?

Licensing and tracking dangerous objects only makes sense.

"Inherently dangerous"?

Guns

Knives (Used in many murders and crimes)

Baseball Bats

Hammers (My state police detective father says this is the most common murder weapon he encounters)

Screw Drivers

Sling Shots

Bows

Crossbows

Rat Poison

Swords

Axes

Hatchets

Blow Darts

Ninja Weapons (I didn't want to list them all)

Dogs

Golf Clubs

And so on and so forth.

 

Anything can be dangerious int he wrong hands. The problem is that those wrong hands don't follow laws. I follow laws and am no threat with my guns. Registering guns is the first step to taking them away. They need to know who has them to force us to give them up. But like I said only law abiding people would register and the criminals and crazies would keep doing what their doing.

No law can stop criminals from commiting crimes.



kain_kusanagi said:
Mr Khan said:

Because guns are inherently dangerous, and who own them should be kept track of just to make sure they can be identified for any crimes they might commit?

Licensing and tracking dangerous objects only makes sense.

"Inherently dangerous"?

Guns

Knives (Used in many murders and crimes)

Baseball Bats

Hammers (My state police detective father says this is the most common murder weapon he encounters)

Screw Drivers

Sling Shots

Bows

Crossbows

Rat Poison

Swords

Axes

Hatchets

Blow Darts

Ninja Weapons (I didn't want to list them all)

Dogs

Golf Clubs

And so on and so forth.

 

Anything can be dangerious int he wrong hands. The problem is that those wrong hands don't follow laws. I follow laws and am no threat with my guns. Registering guns is the first step to taking them away. They need to know who has them to force us to give them up. But like I said only law abiding people would register and the criminals and crazies would keep doing what their doing.

No law can stop criminals from commiting crimes.

And yet many of the more egregious gun crimes (like mass shootings) are done with firearms that were legally obtained. More knowledge for law enforcement couldn't hurt.

And it only speaks to paranoia that folks invoke the slippery slope in regards to gun regulations. The fact that they're armed and self-demonstrably paranoid makes me rather frightened.



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

Mr Khan said:
kain_kusanagi said:
Mr Khan said:
 

Because guns are inherently dangerous, and who own them should be kept track of just to make sure they can be identified for any crimes they might commit?

Licensing and tracking dangerous objects only makes sense.

"Inherently dangerous"?

Guns

Knives (Used in many murders and crimes)

Baseball Bats

Hammers (My state police detective father says this is the most common murder weapon he encounters)

Screw Drivers

Sling Shots

Bows

Crossbows

Rat Poison

Swords

Axes

Hatchets

Blow Darts

Ninja Weapons (I didn't want to list them all)

Dogs

Golf Clubs

And so on and so forth.

 

Anything can be dangerious int he wrong hands. The problem is that those wrong hands don't follow laws. I follow laws and am no threat with my guns. Registering guns is the first step to taking them away. They need to know who has them to force us to give them up. But like I said only law abiding people would register and the criminals and crazies would keep doing what their doing.

No law can stop criminals from commiting crimes.

And yet many of the more egregious gun crimes (like mass shootings) are done with firearms that were legally obtained. More knowledge for law enforcement couldn't hurt.

And it only speaks to paranoia that folks invoke the slippery slope in regards to gun regulations. The fact that they're armed and self-demonstrably paranoid makes me rather frightened.


You have no reason to be frightened by me. I've never hurt or threatened anyone just like 99.9% of legal gun owners. Your irrational fear of law abiding gun owners speaks more about your own paranoia than those you claim are paranoid.



Mr Khan said:

And it only speaks to paranoia that folks invoke the slippery slope in regards to gun regulations.

LOL. This coming from someone who once invoked the slippery slope argument in favor of the government doing something. There's good reason to be afraid of the slippery slope when it comes to power.

Mr Khan said:

The fact that they're armed and self-demonstrably paranoid makes me rather frightened.

Precisely how I feel about the government.



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Why do old people always wanna cramp our style man? Gizzers just can't get with the program, man. Games are radical!



"Trick shot? The trick is NOT to get shot." - Lucian

I have the solution guys. Nanomachines.



Before the PS3 everyone was nice to me :(

Funny how videogames make a convenient target... but nobody mentions gun violence on TV and movies because that would upset the media elite and erode "Senator" Feinstein's power base.



Chark said:

I have the solution guys. Nanomachines.





Mr Khan said:
badgenome said:
Mr Khan said:

I still think the libertarians are putting far too much faith in 3D printing. The advent of the Xerox machine wasn't the death of fiat currency...

That's a pretty terrible analogy.

Not really. Similar techniques could be implemented (although obviously a copier couldn't produce close enough money as easily as 3d printing can produce functioning firearms, or those horribly unnecessary super-size ammo clips) to block the system at the source, namely that copiers are often built with firmware to recognize and void bills, and so could be done with the firmware of 3D printers, to recognize and block gun components.


The clips less so, but i would expect common sense to prevail in that they have no use for anything other than mass murder or general mayhem.

Do copiers do that?  I've never seen one do so.

The xerox machine wasn't the end of fiat currency because of the special ways we make money.   You could still Xerox up all the "working" money you wanted with a Xerox.

It would be pretty impossible to program 3D printers to not recognize guns... and even if you could... it would take all of 5 minutes online to override.